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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 January 2026
Jamie Greene
Yes, you have a moment or two, if you have another question.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 January 2026
Jamie Greene
Far be it from me to put words in your mouth, Auditor General, but are you saying, in summary, that the fact that there were no immediate decisions to be made does not replace the need for an accountable officer to exist?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 January 2026
Jamie Greene
Does that demonstrate that the Scottish public finance manual was not just not being followed but perhaps had been misunderstood, even by the sponsorship division?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 January 2026
Jamie Greene
Thank you for your opening comments. Please do help yourselves to some water, and, if anyone needs anything, get the attention of our clerks. If any of you needs to depart for a short comfort break, feel free to do so. If needs be, I can suspend the meeting so that you do not miss anything. We are very flexible and helpful in this committee.
I will pass the floor now to Graham Simpson, who will have the opening set of questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 January 2026
Jamie Greene
My question follows on from Mr Morris’s comments, and it is open to anyone on the panel. Is there any collective agreement or a view on his suggestion, which is, basically, that HIE should be lumped with the big liability of the funicular and its costs, while the rest of it should be left to everyone else to get on with? Is that the general view?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 January 2026
Jamie Greene
What effect would Forestry and Land Scotland having greater responsibility—or, if you like, ownership of the mountain range in its wider entirety—have on what currently happens up there? Would there need to be any changes? Indeed, would you like to see any changes to what happens there?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 14 January 2026
Jamie Greene
I apologise, but the clock is racing beyond us. We are keen to ensure that all members have an opportunity to chat with you and that we get as much out of you as we can across a wide area of subjects, so I will require a little bit more brevity in responses. Not everyone needs to respond to every question, if that is okay.
Joe FitzPatrick will put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Jamie Greene
In your opening remarks, you made it clear, as you have in the past, that there has been what one might call record, or increased, funding for health—I guess that it depends on how you quantify it and over which period of time—with health spending by the Government 25 per cent higher in real terms than it was 10 years ago. One could argue that it is a good thing that the Government is spending more money on the health service but, in the same breath, you said that the outcomes are not necessarily matching the extra spend.
I do not know whether any analysis has been undertaken of what is driving that or what we might need to change. I will not ask you to delve into policy changes—I understand why you would not want to do that—but I am interested in what was said earlier about the disparity between the performances of health boards. I will come on to levels of intervention in a second, but I note that exhibit 1 paints a complex picture of how the funding is allocated and spent through the territorial boards, the national boards and the complicated integration authority structure. Is that complexity part of the problem?
11:45Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Jamie Greene
My colleague Mr Beattie will be asking about the new arrangements that are replacing brokerage, so I will just park that issue.
What I could not quite understand from your report is the variety of deficits that the boards are facing. I note that, in the last four financial years that your report covers, at the top of the list—the worst offender, if you like—seems to be NHS Ayrshire and Arran, an area that I have represented for nearly a decade now. I find it hard to understand why it has received £130 million of brokerage, while Fife has received only £44 million, or less than a third of that. Is that because there is a view that these boards are just struggling to make ends meet? Is it because of higher demand? Do they have a different demographic from other NHS boards? Are there other fundamental reasons relating to the way in which they are governed or operated?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2026
Jamie Greene
At a more forensic level, have you seen from any of the audits of these boards any evidence of the repayments featuring in their accounting?