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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Those are questions that we might rightly wish to ask of the Scottish Government in response to your comments. I will bring in a colleague in a second. Has Audit Scotland had any conversations with the chair or any members of the board of the agency? Presumably, the role of the board is to provide oversight of the governance arrangements, but it sounds as though there was a distinct lack of that.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Thank you for that further information. Mr Simpson has a supplementary question on this theme.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

I will pass over to Mr Beattie.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

My point is that that occurred in the absence of an accountable officer or any senior leadership in HES.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

If you are willing to do that, that would be helpful. Thank you, Auditor General.

On that note, I conclude the evidence-taking session. I thank Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General, and his accompanying officials—Lisa Duthie, audit director, and Carole Grant, audit director—for answering the committee’s questions on the section 22 report into HES so comprehensively. The committee will consider its next steps in due course.

I suspend the meeting until 11 o’clock to allow for a change of witnesses and a short comfort break.

10:53

Meeting suspended.

11:00

On resuming—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Welcome back to the Public Audit Committee. Item 3 is consideration of our inquiry into the Cairngorm funicular railway. I extend a warm welcome to our three witnesses this morning. Nick Kempe is a campaigner and mountaineer, Gordon Bulloch is a former environmental land remediation and business turnaround manager, and Dave Morris is a Cairn Gorm and international mountain expert. All three gentlemen are members of Parkswatch Scotland. Correct me if I have any of that wrong.

Before we get into questions from committee members, I invite Nick Kempe to make a short opening statement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

You do not need to press your button. Just let the technician do that for you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Including financial responsibility, you mean?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

My esteemed colleague, Mr Beattie, will talk to you about technical issues in a moment. I will focus on the money aspects, which, since we are the Public Audit Committee, we have a responsibility to look at.

In your representations, you have made some specific comments and expressed some views about the repair costs of the funicular. We do not really have the time to revisit the history of that, nor do I wish to do so. However, it is significant to us, as the Public Audit Committee, that the repair costs rose substantially from around £5 million or £6 million to £25 million and, perhaps, rising. I appreciate that there are some live matters that we might not wish to go into around who is paying for what, so we will try to avoid that.

In your view, what was the underlying reason for such a substantial rise in costs of repairs to the funicular?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Jamie Greene

Again, Mr Beattie will cover some of the technical aspects, so we will park that for a second while I finish asking about the financials.

As you know, we have spoken to HIE and visited the site. I have two further questions, one of which is about your more recent engagement with the new management team at the resort. We had the benefit of meeting and chatting to them, and we also met some of the staff, and what was clear to us was the passion exhibited by those who choose to work on the mountain. They love the environment that they work in and they are very passionate about delivering for their local communities.

Do you feel that, despite your reservations about HIE's involvement, the resort is now in a better place or that it might have a better future as a result of the change of personnel?

11:30