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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 December 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

I have a couple of final questions, the first of which is for Madara. I want to get a sense of the balance between what aid is going to Ukraine and what aid is going to neighbouring countries such as Poland, Hungary, and Romania for operations. Could you help with that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Can I pursue that in a slightly different way? I appreciate that this question is a little off topic, but you are the culture secretary, so it is for you to answer wearing your culture hat. We all support economic sanctions on Russia and its regime, but we have also seen in recent weeks some cultural institutions—the Glasgow film festival, for example, and I think an orchestra in Cardiff—withdrawing Russian art and music from their programmes. To be fair to them, they each have justifications for doing that. Do you accept that there is quite a fine line between absolutely justified sanctions and boycotts of output linked to the regime, and more worrying cultural discrimination?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Sorry, Ms Inglish, we lost you for a few seconds there. Could you start again, please?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Before we begin, I thank in public the Ukrainian consul general in Scotland for taking the time to brief the committee this morning on the crisis in Ukraine. He gave very powerful and moving evidence to us and we are incredibly grateful to him, given how busy he must be. The committee reiterates the remarks of the convener on 24 February in expressing our solidarity as a committee with the people of Ukraine and our hopes for a speedy and peaceful recovery from the situation in which the people of Ukraine find themselves.

The first item on our agenda is consideration of the crisis in Ukraine. I welcome representatives from the Disasters Emergency Committee to the meeting. We are joined in person by Jane Salmonson, chair of the expert panel of the humanitarian emergency fund. Joining us virtually we have Sue Inglish, chair of the board of trustees, and Madara Hettiarachchi, director of programmes and accountability, Disasters Emergency Committee. Good morning to you all and thank you for joining us. I know that you are extremely busy. We are also grateful for the briefing that you have provided the committee in advance of this session. I believe that Ms Inglish has a short opening statement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

How do you as a committee manage that changing picture? I take it that it involves trying to predict what will happen, which is difficult. I am interested in how you manage changing needs.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

My final question is on the administrative burdens and costs that such a big appeal places on the DEC. The issue is complicated by the fact that events are happening at scale and also that you have 14 member charities. Can any of you give us a sense of the bureaucracy that you are trying to wade through?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

I certainly give you the assurance that we will continue to pursue the issue in the months and years ahead.

Madara, from an operational perspective, is there any final message that you would like to give the committee?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

I thank all our witnesses.

I suspend the meeting for five minutes to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:15 Meeting suspended.  

10:21 On resuming—  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

I am sure that colleagues will return to that subject.

On the issue of humanitarian aid, we have just had a very useful evidence-taking session with the Disasters Emergency Committee, and before that, we heard from the consul general of Ukraine in private session. The Government has indicated that financial aid to Ukraine will be allocated following discussions with UN agencies, and it is likely that the Scottish Government will take a mix of approaches, working with both non-governmental organisations and UN agencies. Can I explore that with you? Can you elaborate on that approach?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Crisis in Ukraine

Meeting date: 10 March 2022

Donald Cameron

Thank you, cabinet secretary.

I will begin the questioning by asking about certain issues that you touched on in your statement. What is the Scottish Government’s preferred set-up or system for dealing with the number of refugees that we expect to arrive in Scotland? You spoke about local authorities, some of which have previously put in place schemes to deal with refugees arriving from other countries. What system would you prefer, particularly with regard to housing and health issues?