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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 March 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget 2026-27 and Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Liam Kerr

On that final point, Teresa, you will be planning ahead, notwithstanding the challenges that you are facing. What do you expect the resource funding requirements of the SPS to be for the period covered by the spending review?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget 2026-27 and Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Liam Kerr

As there are no further questions, it remains for me to thank Teresa Medhurst and Heather Duncan very much for their evidence.

We will have a short suspension before we move on to the next panel.

10:31

Meeting suspended.

10:40

On resuming—

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget 2026-27 and Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Liam Kerr

Welcome back to the Criminal Justice Committee. For our second panel, I welcome Malcolm Graham, the chief executive of the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service, Stephen McGowan, the legal director of the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, and Marlene Anderson, the director of finance, procurement and estates at the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service. Good morning, and welcome to the committee.

We have up to 75 minutes for this session and I would like to start with some opening statements. I invite Malcolm Graham to make a short opening statement on behalf of the SCTS.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget 2026-27 and Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Liam Kerr

Fulton MacGregor is next.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget 2026-27 and Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Liam Kerr

I have one final question, although I will look out for colleagues coming back in. Malcolm Graham, on the question that you have just been asked, you set out in an earlier submission and in response to Fulton MacGregor that one of your biggest fears—and, indeed, one of the biggest risks—is a cyberattack. You mentioned the data breach. You also told Jamie Hepburn earlier that, because of funding challenges, you rely quite heavily on contractors in that area, which presumably introduces another element of risk. What impact does the shortfall of £11 million, which you said compounds the £8 million from last year and an on-going shortfall in the spending review, have on your assessment of those risks? Ideally, what do you need from the Scottish Government budget to mitigate that? I presume that it is not a luxury but a necessity.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget 2026-27 and Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Liam Kerr

I am grateful for your statement. I was originally going to ask about your reaction to the budget, but you have set it out clearly. However, it puts in mind something that you told the committee last year. You said:

“If we are unsuccessful in our bid for funding, I will not have enough money to run the organisation next year. At some point, the funding will run out. I cannot see any area that we can cut back, particularly given the population pressures.”—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 19 November 2025; c 30.]

You were unsuccessful in your entire bid for funding, so it begs the question of whether that situation will come to pass.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget 2026-27 and Scottish Spending Review

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Liam Kerr

I will ask a couple of questions before I go to Pauline McNeill. My questions are for Malcolm Graham of the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service. For complete transparency, I remind colleagues that I am a practising solicitor and, thus, an occasional user of the tribunals service.

Malcolm Graham, you picked up something in your opening remarks that you had also put in your written submission, in which you said:

“The funding settlement will not allow us to grow operational capacity … to match developing pressures.”

In your opening remarks you referenced the spending review and talked about any “further efficiencies” that have to be made. I would like to give you the opportunity to tell us what those further efficiencies are. Are there any efficiencies that you can realistically make? If so, what will the impact be?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Liam Kerr

Presumably it is too early to know exactly what the implications of the £13 million shortfall are. Is that right?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Liam Kerr

To be clear, because we are facing an imminent election and there will be a new Government, you are saying that, if the funding that is set out in the Scottish spending review comes to pass, your service may need to lose 780 firefighters. Is that correct?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Liam Kerr

I am grateful for that clarity, as much as anything. What you say begs an equivalent question about capital funding. The budget provides capital funding of £48.4 million, which is nearly £13 million less than the £61 million that you told us was needed in pre-budget evidence. How will that shortfall impact on your capital spending?