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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand—thank you. My final question is also to Robbie Drummond. Monica Lennon asked earlier about crew. Can you tell the committee which company employs the crew? Does CalMac—your company—employ the crew, or is it another company that does so?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand. So that the committee fully understands, Transport Scotland contracts with your CalMac, which then subcontracts to Caledonian MacBrayne Crewing (Guernsey) Ltd for the provision of crew. If that is right, does Caledonian MacBrayne Crewing (Guernsey) Ltd have any other clients?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

But you did not ask that question during the process.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

Good morning. I have a couple of questions. Harald, the four main private operators in Norway own or lease their vessels to fulfil the contract obligations that we have heard about. How do those ferry operators procure their ferries, and who decides the precise specifications—the size, the crew complements and so on—that will be procured and ultimately used?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

You say that the 12-month extension follows consultation with various stakeholders and that—you have just said this—you hope that it will alleviate the burden. Has it been reported back from the consultation with stakeholders that the 12-month extension is welcome, that 12 months is the right amount of time and that it will ease the burden and the cost? What is the response from the consultation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I want to pick up on the contractual relationships. I will put my question to Stuart Garrett first and then Robbie Drummond. There are obviously contractual relationships between your organisations, Transport Scotland and CMAL. Earlier, the committee heard from our Norwegian witnesses that, in their case, the contracting authority can change the contract. They described that as not bureaucratic and said that it is quite easy. They said, “We change the timetables every year and it is quite flexible.” That begs a question. Does the contractual nature of Serco NorthLink’s relationship with Transport Scotland and CMAL hinder your ability to provide service innovation or change, or do the contracts have in-built flexibility such that you can react quickly and effectively to changing customer demand?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I have a final question that goes right back to what we spoke about earlier. CalMac will retender, one assumes—if you cannot confirm or deny it—and the tendering process will happen in September or October 2024. There may be a new provider or you may stay incumbent. If your CalMac was to go for that tender and lose it in 24 months, such that Caledonian MacBrayne Crewing (Guernsey) does not have another client, what happens to the crew employed from Guernsey?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

But not for a Guernsey company because that—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I am asking about the position more widely, rather than just the position in relation to the Church of Scotland.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful for that. What I am hearing is that you are setting basic requirements, but you quite clearly said that you have demands on emissions.