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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

It will be late summer, but the committee heard last week that we have less than seven years to meet the targets. We are obviously talking about delivery plans. Following Jackie Dunbar’s questions, something that concerns me is that we surely cannot meaningfully make delivery plans unless the strategy is finalised.

Also, minister, you listed a huge number of impressive Scottish Government investments in biodiversity. However, there is no strategy underlying the investment, and there will not be one for at least another six months. I could reflect back to you that that means that you are funding a load of things without a strategy for why you are funding them. Is that a fair criticism, minister?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I will stick with funding. Framework target 19 requires a significant upscaling of finance for biodiversity, and it talks about “leveraging private finance”. Part of the draft strategy is an investment plan. Will that plan be produced, consulted on and finalised in the timeframe that we heard about earlier in which the delivery plan and the strategy will be finalised? Matthew Bird might answer that question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Mr Bird, I will press you on “broadly”. Earlier, you told me—I cannot remember your precise words—that the delivery plan and the strategy are being consulted on in the spring and summer and will be finalised around the autumn. The investment plan is very much a part of the strategy, so will it be concluded in the same timeframe or is it likely to slip?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Will you commit to publishing it, minister? Alternatively, could you come back to me with an answer as to whether it will be published and, if so, when?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Very briefly, what interest rate will that bridging loan be subject to?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I would like to follow up both an earlier question from the convener and the one that he has just asked. The convener talked earlier about the cost of a basket—that is, the cost of shopping. We know that the DRS could add up to, let us say, 40p per unit. Given the cost of living crisis and the increase in the cost of the weekly shopping, has the Government investigated or done any research on the impact that the scheme might have on inflation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I want to be clear, because I asked you a very direct question. From what you are saying—you looked around the world at what was happening elsewhere—the Scottish Government knew that small retailers would be disproportionately impacted and that some businesses’ viability would be threatened.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

So you did not do that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

When do you expect the strategy and delivery plans to be finalised?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Liam Kerr

The particular private finance deal that NatureScot has signed—I think that it is around woodland and is worth up to £2 billion—is a very interesting model. Quite rightly, the minister talks about the need for £20 billion of private investment for forestry and woodlands. Can we leverage private investment for what we need for heat in buildings? Given the interest in that model, when does the minister intend to publish the full detail that underlies the deal, so that we can see exactly what private investors are getting out of the deal and whether it is applicable at scale and in other areas?