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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

Just before I hand back to the convener, I have a quick question to Alex Hynes. I think that what I am hearing is that there is no financial incentive to either promote good performance or penalise poor performance coming from Scottish Rail Holdings. For the avoidance of doubt, is any similar incentive scheme coming from any other body?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

How does Transport Scotland impose a penalty if those targets are not met?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

I understand.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

Just to be absolutely clear and to reflect that back, you are saying that, notwithstanding the RAIB report, ASLEF’s concerns and driver dissatisfaction, it could be 2030 before Scotland’s railway fully moves on from those HSTs.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

On a related point, how does Scottish Rail Holdings incentivise good performance by ScotRail, and equally, how does it penalise poor performance?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

Thanks for that, but I am not sure that I heard an answer as to how you do or do not incentivise performance. When you say that you “encourage” better performance, does that mean that you sit in board meetings and say, “Come on, chaps—we must do better”?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

I will stick with David Lowrie. Transport Scotland has expressed that Scotland’s railway should be decarbonised by 2035. Given the hopes and expectations that you have just outlined, how can you ensure that there will be effective decarbonisation by then?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

I will stay with Mick Hogg and the tragedy at Carmont—that awful event in 2020 near Stonehaven. Just last week, it was revealed that only two of the 20 recommended actions have been taken following that tragedy. Now that the Scottish Government owns the railway, is it sufficiently taking into account the new risk from, for example, the climate emergency that concerns this committee? Are the Scottish Government’s budget decisions appropriate, given that 18 of the 20 actions remain untaken?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

I just want to be absolutely clear. If that money was spent and the 20-minute saving was delivered, could there be a significant modal shift between Aberdeen and the central belt?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transfer of Operation of ScotRail

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful for those answers.