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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I wish to come back on some of the earlier questions—which I thought were interesting—on the timescales and processes. I recently visited a big company that has some really exciting plans on building renewables and infrastructure, but it is restricted or inhibited in doing that. Its representatives told me that the company needs to apply for the grid connection many years in advance—a grid connection that it will start paying for in advance of actually putting electricity into the grid.

Once the company has gone through that, it then needs to get planning; then it needs to get the kit; and then it will need to get the skills to fit it. Once that is all stacked up—that is, if we accept that the process, the timescale and the up-front investment will potentially restrict innovation and development, or at least limit that to very large companies that can go through all of that—the question becomes one of what precisely needs to change in Scotland and which agency or body in Scotland needs to lead that change to encourage the step change in renewables investment that we all want to see.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I would like to go back to collections and space, which is an issue that Jackie Dunbar asked about earlier. What do you advise smaller or rural retailers to do if particularly large deposits come back or there is a local event and their space gets overfilled? What is the contingency plan if a more frequent uplift is needed than that of the usual collection schedule? What should those retailers do?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Good morning, panel. It has been suggested that Ofgem has an ambiguous relationship with net zero. There are proposals in a recent UK Government white paper to amend your statutory duties to include a specific reference to net zero. Do you have a view on that, Steven? What would expressly changing Ofgem’s statutory duty to include achieving net zero mean in relation to the regulation and design of markets and networks?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Thank you, convener.

The Climate Change Committee has said that we need to ramp up transmission infrastructure massively. As I understand it, Ofgem sets price controls for SPEN and SSEN, which regulate how much can be spent on investment and infrastructure. Your submission says that, on at least one metric, those two companies asked for 17 per cent more for EDT2 than they were actually given. Given all of that, how will Ofgem ensure that the next transmission and distribution network price control periods—those post-2026 and post-2028—will deliver the investment and redesign of the network that we need?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Perhaps when you respond to my next question, you will confirm whether there would be an extra cost to the retailer for an ad hoc pick-up.

David Harris, I saw recently that the collections have a value. If that is right, is the retailer liable if the products are stolen? If so, are there insurance products available to cover the risk?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Therefore, the risk is on the retailer. Simon Jones, I will put the question to you, and you can come back to me on the cost of ad hoc collections. You have obviously signed a deal with Biffa, which will collect the products. What key performance indicators has CSL put on Biffa to protect businesses from poor service, if that were to happen, and from any impacts on regular collections happening on schedule, such as strikes? Given this committee’s remit, what obligation is there on Biffa to be net zero?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Is Circularity Scotland concerned that, following the passing of the original deadline for registration, a significant number of smaller producers that currently market products in Scotland still have not registered? If they do not do so by the launch date of 16 August, will they still be able to sell in Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I will ask a question on another point shortly but, to be absolutely clear, I will reflect back what Donald McCalman just said. If I had a business that was not registered by 16 August, I might not be able to sell my products in Scotland. Is that the case? I ask you to answer that when you take my next question.

Mark Ruskell asked interesting questions about the support package of measures that has been put in place to help smaller producers to participate in the DRS. Notwithstanding those support measures, do you project that small, perhaps artisan, businesses will go out of business as a result of the scheme, perhaps because of the obligations that it places on them, which the deputy convener detailed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Liam Kerr

I will come back in later.