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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2024

Liam Kerr

On the specialisation that you talked about, what progress has been made in developing career progression and pathways for teachers who want to specialise in additional support for learning and on the accreditation for classroom assistants that you talked about?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2024

Liam Kerr

Would you mind getting that information to us, to give us an idea of what the salaries are?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2024

Liam Kerr

That is an interesting point. I take your point about the number of PSAs. However, in previous evidence sessions, a point was made to the committee about whether we are asking staff—in this case, PSAs—to become more generalist. It has been suggested that there is a move away from specialists to load more and more responsibility—indeed, specialist responsibility—on to other functions such as PSAs. Do the statistics suggest that that is what is happening? In your view, is that the right direction of travel?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2024

Liam Kerr

My colleague asked a really good question there. In relation to the point about local authorities being the employer and their lack of funds and how the numbers are changing, what are the salaries of a behaviour support assistant and a pupil support assistant? I genuinely do not know off the top of my head.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Liam Kerr

Good morning. I have two questions, which I will direct specifically to Chloe Minto. What is the availability of legal aid and specialist solicitors in the area? Last week, we heard that the cost of representation at things such as a tribunal is often prohibitive, and there was a suggestion that it can sometimes be a challenge to find skilled legal representation in the area.

10:30  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Liam Kerr

Megan Farr might have something to add to that. I will ask you a direct question on your—or the commissioner’s—submission, which mentions the independent adjudication process. I am not convinced that that is particularly well used. At the risk of asking a leading set-up, if one wants to avail oneself of that process, one has to apply to the Scottish ministers. Given that, why do you think that independent adjudication is not better used, and how might you change it so that it is?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Liam Kerr

Dr Binnie, I want to press this point, because My Rights, My Say seems to suggest that it is at the local authority’s discretion whether independent adjudication progresses, and that there would be no right of appeal. Is that correct and, if so, does that need to change?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Liam Kerr

I understand. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Liam Kerr

Before I bring in Megan Farr on the same point—I will be coming to her on my second question, anyway—will you explain something that I am struggling with from an answer that you gave earlier? You said that Govan Law Centre covers the whole of Scotland, but, presumably, it is based in Govan. How does someone in my area—Aberdeen—who needs representation or support know about your service? How do they access your support if they need it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Liam Kerr

You may have heard me ask earlier about independent adjudication. The response that I got was that one reason why the process is little used is that local authorities do not let people know about it. No local authority has mentioned that process in the submissions that the committee has received. What do you believe to be the reason that independent adjudication is used infrequently? Would COSLA welcome easier routes for parents and families to challenge local authority decisions?

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