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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

Good morning, panel. Karen Watt, I go straight to you. We have heard a great deal this morning, and in general, about the significant financial challenges that our institutions face. It is important to note Professor Gillespie’s earlier comments about stewardship, and that the institutions are navigating the situation carefully. Nevertheless, what support is the SFC offering to those institutions to help them to navigate the current financial challenges?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

My understanding is that such a decision has a much greater impact on Scotland’s modern universities, given the rules on the STSS pension scheme and the enrolment. I know that that has been raised with the Government and with the SFC. Just for the record, however, what can the Government and/or the SFC do to mitigate or ameliorate—or perhaps even, in future, to reverse—that hit to modern universities’ resource budgets?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I understand. I am very grateful.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I have a not unrelated point. If the Barnett consequentials do come up for distribution to teachers’ employers in order to meet the increase in contributions, that raises the question whether the Scottish Government is required to use the increased Barnett funding in that way or whether it is not mandated to do so. Given the current context of councils, in particular, not having the greatest of means—if I can put it that way—I would like to understand the answer to that question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

Shona, you say in your submission that the five-year plan that you mentioned should include

“a repurposing of an element of the overall skills and education resource”.

Has the Government accepted the need for a five-year plan? If so, is it going to develop such a plan? What do you mean by “a repurposing of an element”?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I understand. I will ask about a related point. The purpose and principles document came out in June 2023, but some might say that it has not been extensively referenced since then. What is your view on that? Do you think that colleges are clear on what the Scottish Government’s expectations of them are for this year and going forward?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

It will not surprise you to know that my follow-up question—which I also direct to you, Karen—is that in January, you told the Public Audit Committee that four colleges were facing “fairly significant cash-flow issues”. Can you give the committee an update, first on those four and where they are now, and secondly on the rest of the estate more generally?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

I understand.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

The SFC had to make some very difficult choices, following the last budget, to save £28.5 million from the university resource budget. One of those choices was to remove the contribution of several million pounds to the employers’ contribution to the Scottish teachers superannuation scheme.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Liam Kerr

Thank you very much.

Shona Struthers, the SFC statistics show a significant fall in full-time students at colleges, but there has been a significant increase in enrolments of part-time students. Can you help the committee to understand what might be driving that trend towards more part-time enrolments at colleges? Does that have any implications for the costs of provision of part-time courses for the colleges?