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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

I understand. Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

Good morning. The police told us that they need £33.7 million on top of the £104.9 million uplift. Part of the £33.7 million would go towards funding an additional 600 community officers. The committee heard about the role that those officers would play in prevention and proactive policing. There was also a suggestion that that would help to keep the prison population down. Given the need to reduce the prison population, which the cabinet secretary and I have discussed many times, as well as the significant challenges with things such as antisocial behaviour and retail crime, does the cabinet secretary acknowledge that, if the budget provides a lesser award than £33.7 million for community officers and others, the police’s ability to do community policing will be compromised and the outcomes will be worse?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

I would like a brief clarification. Cabinet secretary, you talked about the fact that, under the notification requirements, a registered sex offender is already required to notify the police of a certain range of details—and you set out what they were. This SSI will add information on any application for a gender recognition certificate or on the issuing of a full GRC. This might be to do with the definition of the relevant start date—you talked about that being the date of conviction—but can you clarify: is the offender required to notify the police if they already have a GRC prior to the date of conviction?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

Exactly.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

I have a small follow-up question, because you brought in enforcement at the end. The convener asked an important question, and you brought up Northern Ireland and Ireland earlier. The committee heard in evidence from the Crown Office that it

“is mindful of the challenges experienced by police and prosecutors”

in those two jurisdictions. Do you accept that enforcement could be problematic? Earlier, in response to the convener, you said that this bill has been drafted differently. Can you help me understand precisely in what way it has been drafted differently if enforcement in Scotland is going to be different from enforcement in those jurisdictions?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

The next question is similar. The committee has heard differing evidence as to whether criminalising purchasers might result in a higher risk for those who are selling sex. We have heard from both sides: on one side, we have heard, “No, it will not increase the risk,” and on the other side, we have heard, “Yes, it will increase the risk.” Do you think that there will be an increased risk to those selling sex? If not, why should the committee prefer that line of evidence as opposed to the alternative?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

Staying on policing, I have a specific question about retail crime. Shoplifting is up 15 per cent in the past year, and it is 129 per cent higher than in 2021. The Scottish Government has provided funding for the retail crime task force, which many have welcomed and have said is an important intervention. Is the cabinet secretary making the case for continuing funding for the retail crime task force beyond March 2026? Can she give us any indication of the prospects of success?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

First, cabinet secretary, on the point that Katy Clark has just raised—and noting that we are all getting this information in real time—I want to be clear that the SSI before us creates a new power for ministers to change the minimum period of sentence served, but to do so using subordinate legislation, such that neither the power’s creation nor its ultimate use would go through full parliamentary scrutiny. That is what is happening here—is that correct?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

On the capital side of the police budget, at the start of the meeting, the cabinet secretary rightly talked about the good work that Police Scotland and the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service have done on modernisation and reform. The chief constable told us that Police Scotland is

“the only public sector organisation in Scotland, maybe with the exception of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, that has seen a reduction in resources since its inception.”—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 5 November 2025; c 32.]

Police Scotland says that the capital budget needs to rise to £93.9 million, which it specifically says is for fleet, systems and policing equipment. If the budget does not meet the figure of £93.9 million, is the cabinet secretary comfortable that we would be asking our police to continue that good work without the capital to do it and that the good modernisation and efficiencies that the cabinet secretary rightly referenced might grind to a halt?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 November 2025

Liam Kerr

I am done—thank you, convener.