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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Liam Kerr

Thank you. I have one final question, minister, on measurement. The stated aims of the policy, which you alluded to earlier, include reducing car use and increasing use of public transport. How does the Scottish Government intend to formally measure what is happening in order to establish whether the implementation of a workplace parking levy has caused the aims to be achieved—in other words, that there is causation rather than simply correlation? Also, to go back to the convener’s point, how does the Scottish Government intend to measure whether, if employers pass the cost on to employees, we are not simply forcing the lower-paid members of a company on to public transport while the higher-paid members avail themselves of the parking spaces?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Liam Kerr

I have no further questions, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Liam Kerr

No—that was an interesting answer. Local authorities face severe funding challenges, and you say that

“there must be an understanding that any bus route new or existing will receive on-going public sector funding”.

Has central Government sufficiently recognised that in NPF4 or more widely, in order to meet the aims that we all want to achieve, and which you pointed out?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Liam Kerr

In that case, I will hand back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Liam Kerr

I am very grateful for that answer. Your last point might be the key one. I have in mind the situation in Montrose in my region, which I have been very active—along with colleagues across the parties—in trying to address.

That leads on to a similar point. Several witnesses have talked about the current burdens on local authorities. As Bruce Wilson pointed out, that is in a context of major budget cuts and funding pressures. In your view, given what you have said about the need to proactively address the issue, is NPF4 sufficiently cognisant of the ability of local government, financially and resource-wise, to mitigate what is happening in Montrose and elsewhere? Does it need to be stronger in mandating central Government to provide the resources and the financing?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Liam Kerr

I will direct a question to Paul White, based on the line of questioning that we have just heard from Monica Lennon. The CPT submission talks about the need for bus services to receive on-going funding, absent which operators will need to make some difficult decisions on, for example, fares, routes and frequency. The committee is carrying out an inquiry into local authorities’ ability to support the measures to achieve net zero, and we know that significant cuts to local authority budgets are coming. Noting that, is there sufficient recognition in NPF4 or more widely of what central Government needs to do to prevent the negative impacts that you mention in your submission?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Liam Kerr

I want to pick up on something that the cabinet secretary said earlier when he was asked about the heat in buildings strategy and the figure of £1.8 billion by 2026. The capital spending review states that the Government will invest £1.6 billion to decarbonise heat in buildings. Why is there that difference? In any event, which portfolios will get the money? Can the committee have a detailed breakdown of the proposed spending profile to 2026?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Liam Kerr

The committee would be grateful for that information.

Natalie Don asked good questions about the lack of progress on a circular economy. In your answers, you mentioned an intended circular economy bill. I think that that was first proposed in 2019 and was restated in the 2021 programme for government. Will you give the committee an update on when we can expect to see the circular economy bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Budget 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Liam Kerr

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (Energy)

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Liam Kerr

I will direct two questions to Dr Kerr but, if anyone else wants to come in after he has answered, they should just indicate that.

Dr Kerr talked about heat networks and policy 11. That policy appears to prioritise heat networks—or what people might know as domestic heating—over other technologies. There is a presumption against domestic biomass where heat networks are available. Does that strike the right balance between heating technologies and site-specific solutions? Does it sufficiently recognise other solutions for heating that might be more financially viable or, indeed, practical?