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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Thank you, minister. You have already touched on an important point by asking whether we need the bill. No member of this committee is against community wealth building—many are passionate about it. However, is the bill ambitious enough? What will it deliver that could not be delivered via, for example, an agreement with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities or ministerial direction to other public bodies? Why do we need legislation when those vehicles could have delivered clear direction to public bodies?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

That brings us to the end of the evidence session. I thank both witnesses for coming along at fairly short notice. I appreciate how important this issue is to your members, to the community and to all the workforce that is affected. As we heard earlier, we will take evidence from Alexander Dennis in an extra meeting tomorrow.

11:41 Meeting continued in private until 12:34.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Our next item of business is the first of two evidence sessions on Alexander Dennis. I begin by declaring an interest as I am a member of Unite the Union and the GMB. Today, we will hear from the trade unions and tomorrow, we will hear from Alexander Dennis management.

On 11 June, Alexander Dennis announced a consultation on consolidating its United Kingdom bus body manufacturing operations in a single site in Scarborough. That would mean that the site at Falkirk would close and work at Larbert would be suspended upon the completion of current contracts. Given the pressing timescales, the committee agreed to hold the evidence sessions this week.

I am pleased to welcome Robert Deavy, senior organiser for manufacturing, GMB Scotland, and Derek Thomson, Unite Scotland’s regional secretary. As always, I ask that members and witnesses keep questions and answers as concise as possible. I am grateful to the panel for joining us at short notice.

Clearly, this is one of the most significant industrial threats that we have faced in Scotland for many years, with 400 skilled direct jobs at risk at a company that should be playing a major part in Scotland’s net zero ambitions. We are keen to understand from the trade unions not only how we got here but what must happen urgently to try to save those jobs and prevent the closure from becoming a done deal.

My first question is what impact there would be for the affected communities if the proposed closure went ahead?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Alexander Dennis

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

We will come back to the detail of what the business needs to do. Can you set out clearly for the committee what the political ask is? What do the Scottish and UK Governments need to do to protect the jobs?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

I was thinking more about formalising that role as a co-designer in the bill, as opposed to those bodies inputting into the plan. That point came through in some of the evidence.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2025 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take in private item 5, which is consideration of evidence. Are members content to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Our second item of business is our final stage 1 evidence session on the Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill. I am pleased to welcome Ivan McKee, Minister for Public Finance. Accompanying him from the Scottish Government are: Stephen White, head of community wealth building; Laura Moffat, community wealth building policy and legislation manager; and Caterina Capaldi, solicitor, all from the Scottish Government. As always, members and witnesses should keep questions and answers as concise as possible.

I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Thank you. I will now bring in Murdo Fraser.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Are you saying that there should be a duty in the bill for councils to set targets, and that there should be standardised reporting, for example? It seems that we do not know what the figures are at the moment—the picture is varied. Further, should there be a duty on councils to provide development support for SMEs to make sure that they can win contracts? Should such duties be added to the bill? At the moment we have an action plan and guidance that says, “Maybe an action plan should have X, Y and Z”. Do you think that the bill could be strengthened to include duties in relation to standardised reporting, targets and support for SMEs? Would you like to see those specified in the bill?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Colin Smyth

Our fundamental concern is what may change in the bill. On that point, should there be a duty in the bill, for example, for anchor organisations to co-design their action plan? Should that be specified in the bill?