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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Rona Mackay
I thank Maggie Chapman for lodging amendment 54. I completely agree with everything that she said, and it is good that the issue has been raised. My only concern is that the bill before us might not be the correct bill for her proposed new section—it should perhaps go in the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill; maybe the cabinet secretary will address that. Nevertheless, I completely understand and agree with Maggie Chapman’s argument.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
I want to pick up on a point that Tracey McFall made, on which everyone seemed to agree. You all know what the problems are—they are long standing. Is it partly an organisational problem? Obviously, more money always helps, but is there an element of agencies not working together to secure pathways? Are there gaps in the system that could be cured by better organisation?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
That is what I was trying to get at—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
I will ask my other questions later, convener, and let Pauline continue.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
I think that everybody agrees on early intervention. Would anyone else like to comment on whether people with addiction problems should be in prison?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
Okay, thank you—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
Tracey McFall’s point about the lack of parity between organisations is key to what we are talking about. As has been said, it can work and there are some success stories. Before I move on, I want to pick up a point with Kevin Neary. You have been doing excellent work with ex-offenders for years. On the basis of your experience over all the years that you have been doing that work, do you think that things are getting worse?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
That is exactly the point that I was going to raise, but, just for context, before I come to that, HMP Low Moss, which is in my constituency has a recovery cafe onsite. It can see 200 prisoners engage in any given week. It says that there are pathways for external referral but a lack of available spaces, so it is kind of working, but we do not have the finished article.
Kevin Neary talked about women in prison, and I am incredibly worried about the number of women in prison and the knock-on effect on families. As Kevin said, most of the women—or a lot of them—have addiction problems and the majority of them have been domestically abused, sexually abused or have mental health conditions. In last week’s evidence session, Kirsten Horsburgh from the Scottish Drugs Forum said that she did not think that prison is the place for people with addiction problems, and I agree with her. She also said that there is definitely an argument for decriminalising drugs. What are your thoughts on her views? Can we reach a consensus on how to deal with this? The status quo is clearly not working, so we need a radical shift in the approach.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
As Sarah Rogers has articulated, the knock-on effect on children causes even more harm than the original problem. Does anyone else want to come in?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rona Mackay
Good morning. I am wondering about the measure’s impact on the SCTS’s workload. I am thinking that it will not be huge, but is that being thought about?