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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 October 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Rona Mackay

That was part of the work of the previous group, and, now that the units are nearing completion, we are very keen to press the need for contact between mothers and children. We are asking for mother-and-baby units to be part of these establishments in order to allow mothers to bond with their babies instead of being separated from them. As I said, it has been part of our work—we have taken evidence on it from the Scottish Prison Service on many occasions—and we very much see such work as on-going and necessary.

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I see that we have Leeanne Hughes back online. Leeanne, I do not know whether you heard my question. I will not go through it all again. Your submission refers to women whose tolerance to drugs reduces during their sentences, and they often overdose when they come out. You say that that has been a problem during Covid because of the lack of access to GPs. Could you expand on that, please?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

That is really interesting and helpful. Do you have an end point for that? Are you working within a timescale to produce that evidence?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Natalie, the first time you spoke you alluded to a gap in services. Can you expand a wee bit on your thoughts on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

That was the word that you used. Can you expand on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I want to ask Superintendent Conway about the police referral system and the factors that are taken into account when deciding what action to take. I will then discuss the Scottish Drug Deaths Taskforce with Neil Richardson.

Superintendent Conway, can you give us an idea of how many referrals to services are made when your officers encounter someone who has been using drugs? I am not asking for an exact figure; I would just like to know the approximate level of such referrals. What do your officers look for? Could you tell us a wee bit about how they make that judgment at the time?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Are you saying that, when you make referrals, you are told that no one is available to take the people concerned? Is that what you mean? How do you know that your partners are struggling?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Thank you for that.

I go back to the fact that the submission from Sacro and Shine says:

“63% of all prison referrals in Shine related to women on remand.”

That is a high number. Some of those women are seriously addicted at that point. Do you agree that prison is not the place for women who have committed low-level offences because of their addiction problem?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I am conscious of time so I will finish there.