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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 October 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

I want to ask you more about part 2 of the bill on rehabilitation, and about education and training. On the notifications side, the bill contains what would be a new offence of failing to comply with the notification provisions “without reasonable excuse”. What would a reasonable excuse be?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

Is primary legislation needed for that? Could such a requirement not simply be brought in?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

With the Horizon legislation that you mentioned, the quashing was done so that the complainants could have redress. Is that part of your reasoning for going down that route?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

I have a tiny additional question. Maren Schroeder gave some cost figures. In the Horizon case, it worked out at about £4,000 per person. What do you estimate that the cost would be, per person, if you went down a different route?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

Yes—it is just a small question on what Agata Maslowska said about the most serious sex offenders.

What criteria are you using for that? What constitutes a serious offender? Is it somebody who has been convicted and sentenced to a certain length of time?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

Basically, it is for sentences of 12 months or more.

Criminal Justice Committee

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

Okay. I want to move on to training in schools. I think that what you are suggesting is very vague. I am all for early education on the subject in schools, but we need to know who would design the schemes. Would teachers do that, or would you bring in specialists? Also, if such training were to be done properly, it seems to me that the cost would be substantial. Can you say more about who would design it and who would carry it out?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

How can we pass legislation if we do not know such details?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Rona Mackay

I am finding this a bit confusing. The Caledonian system already exists, but how would your bill fit into that? Are you saying that your bill would introduce additional rehabilitation or are you going to make that part of the Caledonian system?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Rona Mackay

I have a small supplementary question on regional recall. I think that I know how you will answer this, but I would like you to put it on the record.

As I understand it, the Welsh threshold for recall is 10 per cent of the voters across the region, and then it goes to the next person on the list. That is straightforward. I think that I know what you are going to say, but I just want you to put it on the record. Why did you not choose that system?