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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

I need to move on to Tess White.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Thank you very much. I thank the panellists for their evidence and their attendance, and there will now be a short break to allow for a change of panels.

10:26 Meeting suspended.  

10:40 On resuming—  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

I call Sandesh Gulhane.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Agenda item 2 is evidence taking on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. Our first panel comprises representatives from trade unions, and I welcome to the meeting Dave Moxham, who is deputy general secretary of the Scottish Trades Union Congress, who is joining us remotely. We are also joined by Cara Stevenson, who is organiser for the women’s campaign unit at GMB Scotland. We hope to be joined by Lilian Macer, who is the regional secretary at Unison Scotland, and who unfortunately has been delayed.

We will move straight to questions. I call Stephanie Callaghan.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

I would like to hear the panel members’ views on the proposals for legal accountability for social care and it being shared between the Scottish ministers and local authorities, which is quite a significant change to what was first proposed in the bill. I come first to Rachel Cackett.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

I am very conscious of time. This session is due to finish in 11 minutes, but members still have quite a lot of questions that they want to ask. If the witnesses are happy to stay until 12 o’clock, that will, I hope, help us to get through more of our questions.

11:45  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

We continue our scrutiny of the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. The second panel of witnesses that we will hear from today is comprised of representatives of care providers and the voluntary and third sectors. I welcome to the meeting Rachel Cackett, who is the chief executive officer of the Coalition of Care and Support Providers in Scotland; Dr Jim Elder-Woodward OBE, who is the convener of the Inclusion Scotland board and a member of its people-led policy panel; Rob Gowans, who is the policy and public affairs manager of Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland; and Dr Donald Macaskill, who is the chief executive of Scottish Care. Jim Elder-Woodward is supported by Lisa Ehlers from Inclusion Scotland.

We move straight to questions from Tess White.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Thank you for coming in there, Rachel. We are very tight for time, so I ask people to keep their questions and answers sharp.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Emma Harper has a question.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

We need to move on. We are running short on time, so I ask members to be concise with their questions and panel members to be concise with their answers. I move to Evelyn Tweed.