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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 29 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2022

Jenny Gilruth

The guidance has not yet been produced; it will be produced once the Scottish statutory instrument is—as, I hope, it will be—passed by the committee. It is dependent on that.

On the figure that Mr Kerr is looking for, no such figure has been identified, at this time. It is for local authorities to carry out the modelling and, essentially, to look at their own local circumstances. It is not for me to direct them—the power is for local authorities to use and depends on their local circumstances.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2022

Jenny Gilruth

I do not think that I said that work has not started. That is not accurate. We plan to publish guidance in the first half of 2022, if the Parliament does not annul the regulations. In our guidance for local authorities, we will outline the themes that emerged from the public consultation, which was undertaken to inform the regulations and guidance. That will include issues that were outwith the scope of the regulations but that local authorities might want to look at in their consultations. The guidance will also include reference to the support that is already available to local authorities in existing guidance on best practice in their consultations.

12:30  

Before I took an intervention from Mr Kerr, I mentioned the climate change emergency, and it is important that we link back to that. All the parties in the Parliament supported the ambitious and legally binding emissions reduction targets in the Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Act 2019. Workplace parking licensing schemes have the potential to encourage the use of more sustainable travel while also raising revenue that will be used to improve public and sustainable transport. That is the key point that Mark Ruskell made. Now is the time to support the climate change legislation with real actions and not just words.

We have heard much today about the Nottingham example. I again make the point that it is the only scheme in operation in the United Kingdom. I point to the positive outcomes that were outlined in evidence to the committee’s predecessor by Nottingham City Council, which is a Labour-run council. Of course, Nottingham has among the highest public transport use in the country, and there has been an associated fall of 40 million car miles over the past 15 years. The revenue from the workplace parking levy has supported the expansion of Nottingham’s successful tram system, which I mentioned. Nottingham has also made grants available to support employers to implement sustainable transport measures such as cycle parking. Again, that is a hugely significant investment.

I am pleased that the Government has introduced the regulations so that local authorities in Scotland can make use of the new discretionary powers that the Parliament provided to them. I do not support Graham Simpson’s motion to annul the regulations, which are technical and necessary in order for workplace parking licensing schemes to be implemented effectively and transparently. I urge Mr Simpson to withdraw his motion. If he does not do so, I urge members of the committee to oppose it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2022

Jenny Gilruth

No—I would like to make some progress.

As for the concerns that have been raised about the impacts on different types of businesses and workers, they will be for local authorities to consider, consult on and assess. The 2019 act gives authorities the power to shape their own schemes by specifying, for example, the time of day when they will apply. That is actually quite important. Monica Lennon referred to vulnerable workers, and we need to look at what types of workers are working at which times of day—for example, women who might be working in night-time industries, hospitality and so on—geographical boundaries and local exemptions to ensure that councils have the flexibility and discretion to support positive outcomes. As the committee heard two weeks ago in my response to Ms Hyslop, two or more local authorities might want to work together to create their own scheme.

We have skirted around the climate change emergency today, but I do want to come back to it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2022

Jenny Gilruth

On the first point, I make it very clear that the delay related to resource in Government. We had to redirect vast swathes of civil servants because they had to deal with the emergency legislation that, as the member will recall, we had to pass back in 2020, not because this was a bad idea.

I am going back to my previous role for a moment but, on the issue of businesses and whether this is the right time to introduce the regulations, Mr Simpson will recall that the UK Government decided not to extend the transition period during the worst excesses of the pandemic and instead ploughed ahead with a hard Brexit, which impacted on and devastated many businesses across Scotland. I therefore find it quite difficult to take lessons from the Conservatives on what would be the right time to introduce legislation such as this that will have an impact on businesses.

To some extent, the Conservatives have hidden behind Covid with regard to some of the impacts of Brexit, and I very much hope that they are not suggesting that we hide behind Covid with regard to the climate emergency. We have heard from Mr Ruskell about the need for urgency on this matter. We have to get on, and the workplace parking levy is a way of working with local authorities to achieve our climate change ambitions.