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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 January 2026
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ivan McKee

The last point that I want to raise is about the exemptions on trade union activity—picketing. It is clear that we are working our way through the issue and that there are human rights challenges on many sides. I would like to understand your perspective on the rationale behind a potential trade union exemption. Does what is in the bill meet those requirements? The right to trade union activity is a fundamental human right, as is the right to protest, so I would like to understand your perspective on how we unpick that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ivan McKee

Is there a risk that trade union activity could cause the same kinds of concerns that we have identified in relation to existing protests?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ivan McKee

I have a brief follow-up question on that, just to clarify a point. We have a quote from Police Scotland’s submission in our briefing notes. The submission says:

“The Bill has been reviewed and”

Police Scotland’s

“position remains that existing powers and offences ... are sufficient to address any unlawful behaviour which may arise in the vicinity of a health care premises as a result of such protest.”

How does that square with what you have just said? I want to ensure that we understand exactly what the position is, for the record, if that is okay.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ivan McKee

I think that everything has been covered, convener.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ivan McKee

I suppose that it is a tautology and a statement of the obvious. If it is lawful, it is lawful; if it is not, it is not.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ivan McKee

I kind of see what you are saying, but I suppose that it comes across as a statement that you do not think that more powers are required to deal with the situation. Thanks for that clarification.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ivan McKee

Thank you for clarifying that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Ivan McKee

I ask for clarity on a question that was raised in the evidence session last week about the information that is provided in the clinics by staff about the options for women who come in.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Ivan McKee

Let us go back to Adam Tomkins’s second point, about holding Government to account. We have had a lot of good discussion this morning about the value of committees and inquiries in raising issues and taking evidence, and in scrutinising legislation, given the two-way street that can operate effectively in that regard. Do you want to highlight anything as a good example of committees holding Government to account?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Committee Effectiveness

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Ivan McKee

I welcome the witnesses. Thank you for your open dialogue and your wide-ranging input on this important subject.

Professor Tomkins, I was quite taken by your outlining, in your introduction, the role of the Parliament and its three functions. That is a very helpful way to think about it.

I take issue with you slightly on one aspect, however, which I would like to explore a wee bit more. I think that you both said that the role of a committee is not to debate issues. I understand what you mean with regard to members having an opportunity to grandstand and make political points. However, there is perhaps an issue around the role of committees in allowing issues to be raised that would otherwise not be raised. I would like to get your reflections on that. The Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee is one structural manifestation of that, but the opportunity arises in all committees. I am taken by the fact that, when I encounter people outside Parliament who are coming to give evidence to a committee, the fact that they are engaging with the process in that way is a big deal for them.

As a follow-on from that—this is perhaps quite an existential question—what is the outcome of that process? Is it just that people come in and make their views known to a committee in evidence, as part of an inquiry or whatever, and that does not necessarily go anywhere? I go back to the point that Annie Wells made about legacy reports. When I came back to committees after a five-year absence as a minister, I thought, “Oh, you’re still talking about the same things you were talking about five years ago. The same people are coming in and we’re asking the same questions, so what’s actually changed?” I suppose that my question is, what changes as a consequence of that process?