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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 22 February 2024

Ivan McKee

Okay—I understand.

Mr Hamilton, you mentioned redefining the process. I think that there is a different triage process and so on. It is good to hear all that. More work on proactive release of information in a standardised form might help, so I assume that that is on your agenda, but will you confirm that that is the case?

Also, to what extent are you looking at new technology, such as artificial intelligence and so on, to speed up the process?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 22 February 2024

Ivan McKee

It is interesting that you can see a culture. I suspect that Stephen Kerr will jump on that, so I will leave it to him to do so.

Is there any calculation or sense of how much the whole process of pulling information together for FOIs costs across the public sector?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Information Commissioner

Meeting date: 22 February 2024

Ivan McKee

I am sorry, but are you saying that the cost number does not include all the costs?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care (Self-directed Support) (Scotland) Act 2013 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 20 February 2024

Ivan McKee

No, it is okay.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups (Annual Monitoring Report)

Meeting date: 8 February 2024

Ivan McKee

I seek clarification on that point, convener. You described a process whereby a CPG decides that it wishes to cease to be a CPG. Is there a process whereby, in some circumstances, the committee may decide that it wishes to derecognise a CPG, even if that CPG has not volunteered to be derecognised?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups (Annual Monitoring Report)

Meeting date: 8 February 2024

Ivan McKee

I have a few comments. First, I thank the clerks for the huge amount of work that has gone into pulling together this comprehensive document, which outlines the performance or otherwise of various CPGs. To be frank, CPGs are hugely fundamental to the Parliament, because they enable members of the public and interest groups to engage with parliamentarians and visit the Parliament building fairly regularly. The number of CPGs will be the number that can be supported, because that represents thousands of people coming into Parliament regularly, which is absolutely to be encouraged.

Having said that, I think that, to be frank, people who operate CPGs should be able to meet the requirements, which are not especially onerous with regard to the number of meetings, the number of members involved, producing minutes and so on.

It might be interesting to consider having a more formal process for derecognising CPGs in extremis and potentially having an intermediate step. I understand that the clerks write to conveners, but that is just an email in the background. We could have a process so that, when we recognise that a CPG is struggling, that is made public knowledge on the website, so that members of the CPG recognise that there is an issue and step forward to do work to reinvigorate the group. It would be unfair simply to get notification one day that a CPG no longer existed without having had the opportunity to engage and seek parliamentary support.

There could be an intermediate step that formally recognised the difficulty and then a derecognition step. Perhaps it would be helpful to come back to this in three months, rather than leaving it to once a year. Although 76 CPGs have done absolutely everything that has been asked of them, a number have not, and it would be remiss of us not to look at that further in short order.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Act 2012 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Ivan McKee

That is fine.

I will move on. In terms of the effect on the industry, I have a couple of data points on which I again seek clarification, as we will be speaking about those with our next panel.

A study by the Institute for Fiscal Studies says that there are £383 million of “windfall gains” from MUP to the alcohol sector a year. I am not sure whether that is increased revenue, increased profit, net profit or something else. There is also the Sheffield modelling, which gives a figure of £140 million, which is a revenue number. Clearly, that will not translate through to profit.

I do not know whether anyone on the panel is on top of any of those numbers. If not, it is not a problem.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Act 2012 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Ivan McKee

Of economic activity?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Act 2012 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Ivan McKee

If I may, I will come back on that very briefly, convener.

You are absolutely right, and of course I understand that those are all factors. The point that I am trying to make is that we have already established through earlier questions that you do not have the data to understand where the revenue and the profit are, where they are flowing up and down the supply chain and what the impact on volume and revenue has been. Without that data to back it up, I am struggling to understand how such a strong case is being made that this is a bad thing for retailers. It may well be a good thing, depending on exactly what the numbers are that nobody seems to know.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Alcohol (Minimum Pricing) (Scotland) Act 2012 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Ivan McKee

I understand what it is trying to tell us, and thanks for laying that out—