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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ben Macpherson

We would appreciate that, as appropriate; I know that it is a sensitive area.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ben Macpherson

And the use of secondary legislation gives that flexibility.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ben Macpherson

Absolutely. I have a final question on charges for single-use items. You talked about the success of the carrier bag charge that was introduced in 2014. That has been an undoubted success environmentally, but also from the point of view of behavioural change.

Last week, it was argued by representatives of the business community that the fact that the money that is raised from the plastic bag charge can be put towards local causes has helped with collegiate buy-in to the policy, from the point of view of both implementation and seeing the benefits. Do you have any comments to make on how the net proceeds from charges for single-use items should be used? As things stand, the bill proposes a different approach from the one that has been taken in relation to the 2014 plastic bag charge.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ben Macpherson

If no one wants to add to that, I will move on.

It definitely is part of a puzzle and, of course, one advantage of a deposit return scheme is that it helps to reduce contamination. There is not just the challenge of the 60 per cent of materials that go into landfill but that could be recycled; it is also about how we improve the quality of the recyclate that goes into recycling provisions as they are. To me, the puzzle is about deposit return and the considerations in the bill, but it is also about public awareness and cultural change.

Regarding the provisions to put the recycling code on a statutory footing and to enable the setting of local targets, what evidence is there to suggest that taking a statutory approach in those areas will drive up standards? What are the key opportunities in making systems more consistent across the country? How do we drive up standards and make the systems more consistent, and how important would those elements be?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ben Macpherson

Yes, and it is also about consistency of practice and how it is implemented.

If there is no other feedback on that, I want, finally, to come back to a point already raised by Mr Gulland about our facilities to meet the bill’s requirements and the shared collective aim of reducing waste and increasing recycling. What investment in waste, whether it be in recycling, reuse, redistribution or infrastructure, will be needed to support the bill’s aims? I would be grateful if you could elaborate on what you said earlier, Mr Gulland, because I think that it is really important.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ben Macpherson

If you could follow up on that, it would be helpful. Your points about inward investment and job creation are absolutely of interest, including the point that having consistency and a uniform position across local authorities on processing would attract such investment.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Ben Macpherson

Good morning. The Government is putting in a lot of additional resource to support our young people through these challenging times, whether that is the PEF allocation, which we spoke about earlier, the Scottish child payment or free school meals.

In last week’s evidence session, it was stated that, despite the significant amount of additional resource that has gone into providing free school meals, the funding going to local authorities for that policy has not kept pace with inflation. What are the Government’s thoughts on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Ben Macpherson

You talked about the wide-ranging potential positive impact of free school meals. On how we consider the policy in future, does the Government plan to evaluate the educational and wellbeing effects or, indeed, the impact on child poverty? Is there an intention to evaluate the impact of the universality of the free school meal provision?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Ben Macpherson

Indeed, those additional facilities could enable community groups to do other things in the wider community that would help to impact poverty, learning and the wider common good.

For the sake of clarity, are you saying that the evaluation will consider the educational impact, the impact on child poverty and the impact on physical health in the round?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Ben Macpherson

I take your point but, in many other instances, secondary legislation has worked effectively and has been scrutinised well. We should learn the lessons as you have articulated them but, to put everything in the bill would be impractical, so it would be good to hear of any specific changes you would like to the bill.