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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

So, in such a situation, although the use of a photo would be appropriate in proceedings, you would want the original to be kept available until the conclusion of the trial.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

As the bill progresses, we could consider whether retention of the original thing, to use your phrase, should be a requirement until the conclusion of the trial process.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

So the issue is about both the suitability and the establishment of appropriate suites, to use your word, whether in defence firm offices or in a public sector setting such as—to use Mr Munro’s example—local libraries. There needs to be clear agreement and understanding, and then facilitation and resourcing of those facilities.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

And perhaps for some time thereafter, in case of an appeal.

Convener, do I have time to ask one more question?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

Will you say that again, Mr Brown, as your microphone was off?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I will come in later on a specific point.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

From your answers thus far and from your written submissions, it seems that there is not an opposition to the principle of moving to the use of digital technology when it is appropriate and the modernisation of the systems that you operate within every day, but that due consideration needs to be given to the practicalities and the resourcing. Mr Brown made a good point about a faster and cheaper approach versus a better one.

That makes me think about what the estimates for timelines should be in respect of any change or reform. You will note that section 28, on commencement, states that some parts of the bill will come into effect on royal assent or on 1 December this year, whichever is earlier.

It would be helpful for us to understand—whether in a verbal response now, or by following up with the committee in writing—what you think would be a fair and reasonable timeframe if Parliament was to pass the bill and the Government was to resource it appropriately. My first reaction is that the timeline is quite ambitious, but I am interested in hearing practical insights from you and your members on the ground, so to speak.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you for flagging that. We can consider that as we move on to stages 2 and 3 of the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I do not doubt that it can be done. I am just trying to get a sense, if the Parliament were to pass the bill, of a realistic time frame that will enable the practical delivery of something that, from everything that you have said, I am convinced would make a difference.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I have a brief question. Mr Chapman, you mentioned that, of your casework, approximately 50 per cent comes from the west, 25 per cent from the north and 25 per cent from the east. I thought that that was interesting, given the population changes in Scotland and the places where the population is growing.

It provoked me to think about something that I have engaged with you on in the past. I appreciate your role in statute and in the timeline of a complaint. Will you be undertaking work in the period ahead—especially if the Parliament passes the Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill this afternoon and it is then implemented—to raise awareness of the PIRC further in the public domain so that people know that you are there and you are able to hear cases?

Having helped constituents through the PIRC submission process, I sometimes worry about how much public awareness there is that the PIRC is there and that you can consider people’s cases.