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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

The second area that is covered by the new provisions in part 1 relates to the authentication of electronic documents. I presume that you think that those provisions are helpful, but are there any problems with the drafting that need to be resolved?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I appreciate that. That was really helpful, particularly with regard to our discussion with the earlier witnesses. Thank you for providing a bit more detail.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I will come in later on a specific point.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

From your answers thus far and from your written submissions, it seems that there is not an opposition to the principle of moving to the use of digital technology when it is appropriate and the modernisation of the systems that you operate within every day, but that due consideration needs to be given to the practicalities and the resourcing. Mr Brown made a good point about a faster and cheaper approach versus a better one.

That makes me think about what the estimates for timelines should be in respect of any change or reform. You will note that section 28, on commencement, states that some parts of the bill will come into effect on royal assent or on 1 December this year, whichever is earlier.

It would be helpful for us to understand—whether in a verbal response now, or by following up with the committee in writing—what you think would be a fair and reasonable timeframe if Parliament was to pass the bill and the Government was to resource it appropriately. My first reaction is that the timeline is quite ambitious, but I am interested in hearing practical insights from you and your members on the ground, so to speak.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you for flagging that. We can consider that as we move on to stages 2 and 3 of the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I do not doubt that it can be done. I am just trying to get a sense, if the Parliament were to pass the bill, of a realistic time frame that will enable the practical delivery of something that, from everything that you have said, I am convinced would make a difference.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

Communities need to be made aware of the PIRC, whether that is by parliamentarians such as ourselves, local authorities, the third sector or other statutory bodies.

Of course, an excellent website is welcome. I have constituents who are very aware of what you do or have been made aware by us. However, when told about the website, they have said, “Oh, I didn’t know about that”. That is just something to bear in mind.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

I have a brief question. Mr Chapman, you mentioned that, of your casework, approximately 50 per cent comes from the west, 25 per cent from the north and 25 per cent from the east. I thought that that was interesting, given the population changes in Scotland and the places where the population is growing.

It provoked me to think about something that I have engaged with you on in the past. I appreciate your role in statute and in the timeline of a complaint. Will you be undertaking work in the period ahead—especially if the Parliament passes the Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill this afternoon and it is then implemented—to raise awareness of the PIRC further in the public domain so that people know that you are there and you are able to hear cases?

Having helped constituents through the PIRC submission process, I sometimes worry about how much public awareness there is that the PIRC is there and that you can consider people’s cases.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

Can I ask one more small question, convener?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Ben Macpherson

You are saying that we are getting closer but we do not know yet—