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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 October 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

I will ask a question before I move on to Ash Regan. You talked about a definition, and there were good questions from colleagues about how the landscape could be made simpler and easier to understand and how it could be better structured. Is there a possibility that we need a consolidation act to bring this all together, to reform it, and to strategise so that it is all more coherent? I am aware that, particularly with reserved legislation in years past, consolidation acts have helped to tidy the landscape. Is there a need for that here in Scotland? That is quite a broad question.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

Okay. Do any of the witnesses have thoughts on my question? Let us perhaps start with Dr Gill.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am thinking particularly about the fact that the bill was amended at stage 2 just last week. I am conscious that I sit on the Criminal Justice Committee, too, and that our job today is to talk broadly and not about one proposition, but that was interesting and helpful, and I thought that it was important to give that wider context. If you were able to follow up on anything, I am sure that Parliament would be interested in that ahead of stage 3. We are also interested in what you have said today with regard to the remit and task that this committee is undertaking, so thank you very much.

Lorna Slater has a follow-up question on what we have just discussed.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you—that was helpful and was good context for the rest of our discussion.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

Those are very interesting and helpful points. The question of how MSPs’ time and resources are utilised is broad and has been touched on by the committee. Dr Gill, did you want to come in?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

There is quite a considerable sunk cost in setting up a body, as well.

Lorna, do you still want to—

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

Well said. Dr Gill?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

Sarah Boyack will be listening attentively.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

We have a limited timetable, Dr Gill. We will be ceased in September, so we have a sunset clause. Sorry to interrupt your flow—that is just a point of clarity.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

Dr Lamont, I am conscious that your examination of the situation, which was very helpful and interesting to hear you elaborate on, is about England and Wales. Of course, we currently have a proposition on a victims commissioner before our Parliament in the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill, which is at stage 2 of our three stages. Last week, at the Criminal Justice Committee, amendments on that matter were considered. If you had capacity, and if there was any insight or examination that you wanted to provide to Parliament on that bill as amended, I am sure that that would be of interest to MSPs.