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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

As colleagues do not have any further questions, I will ask one last question. It is quite broad, but it is an important one.

You talked—quite rightly—about the need for organisations to ensure that they have resource for responding to freedom of information requests. I know from my experience how much time is taken up in responding to the important right to freedom of information. However, in recent weeks, there has been some discussion in the public and parliamentary domains about portfolio questions perhaps being overused and, arguably, irresponsibly used. Do you want to say anything about the responsible use of and engagement with freedom of information by parliamentarians, journalists and the general public, and about the impact of requests on your resources and those of other bodies?

If you have nothing to say, that is fine. I appreciate that that is a broad question, but I thought that it was relevant in the wider context of prudence.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Welcome back. I am pleased to welcome to the committee Dr Brian Plastow, who is the Scottish Biometrics Commissioner, and Ross MacDonald, who is the director of the Scottish Biometrics Commissioner’s office. Thank you for joining us, for your written submission and for your time.

We move directly to questions. As with other witnesses in recent weeks, the first question is from me. I would be grateful if you would set out what you consider to be the purpose of the Scottish Biometrics Commissioner and how that differs from the role of ministers, MSPs and other bodies that exist for the public and common good of Scotland.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

It does. It is also helpful context for the questions that colleagues will now put to you.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

On that matter, the six key recommendations in your written submission were interesting and helpful. The last one is that

“Scottish Ministers and the Parliament should review the functions of all SPCB supported bodies every 5 years”.

Do you want to say a bit more about that? It is an interesting suggestion.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 20 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

That is really helpful, and I appreciate the candid way in which you put that forward.

I want to reflect on the evidence that you gave to the Criminal Justice Committee, which I sit on, and what you said in response to Lorna Slater about the different ways that biometrics are utilised and where and how they might be utilised in the future, in Scotland and internationally. You indicated to the Criminal Justice Committee that there might not be a necessity for your position in the future. For the record, do you want to say that again or to say a bit more about it, for the benefit of our committee?

11:15  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

I will ask about the review bodies. The bill provides for a review oversight committee and for case review panels to carry out the work involved in reviews. I would be grateful if you could outline the Scottish Government’s thinking in proposing that approach and the proposed membership of those bodies.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Section 11 and the schedule are quite specific about membership. Section 11 states that the review oversight committee must include

“representatives of voluntary organisations which provide services to individuals”.

However, it does not require that they have specific knowledge of domestic abuse. I am interested in any comment on that. The schedule discourages the appointment of people who are involved in victims organisations as chairs of the review oversight committee or case review panels. I am interested in fully appreciating the rationale for that.

10:30  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you for that, and thank you particularly for emphasising the point in paragraph 3(2) of the schedule about the restriction applying to the period of the year prior to the appointment. That is a key point for us to consider.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Good morning, and welcome to the third meeting in 2025 of the SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee. I have received no apologies for today’s meeting.

Under agenda item 1, the committee will take evidence from the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman, and I am very pleased to welcome Rosemary Agnew to the meeting.

We move directly to questions, and I will ask a general question first. What do you consider to be the SPSO’s role, and how does it differ from the role of ministers, MSPs and other public bodies?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Before I go to Lorna Slater, I have a question on the same topic. My other committee—the Criminal Justice Committee—is considering the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill, which includes a proposal to establish a victims and witnesses commissioner for Scotland. There has been discourse in Parliament and beyond about such a role. If you were inclined to speak in similarly candid terms, given your experience and understanding, is that an area that you as an ombudsman could encompass as well?