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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

You are saying that you are already carrying out the work and you probably already have the plans, but you might just have to retitle them. Is that what you are saying?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

I have a brief follow-up question. You will have to undertake additional activities and co-ordination. You have mentioned community planning partnerships, which already exist. If the cabinet secretary, in a letter of direction to Scottish Enterprise, said that you must do certain things, including engaging in community wealth building and undertaking a co-ordinating role, you would have to do that, would you not?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

That would be in a letter of direction, so that would not require legislation, would it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Grangemouth’s Industrial Future

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

I am wondering whether you would be able to quantify that. I am not asking for the information right now—you may want to provide it in writing. I want to know what the current commitment is to explore funding as well as the number of full-time equivalent jobs, and what has happened in the past with the FTE commitment in relation to the projects that you have set out, as well as the quantum of funding. It would be useful to have that information as context for the committee.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Grangemouth’s Industrial Future

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

Do not feel that you need to be. I think that it is important that you are expansive, cabinet secretary.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Grangemouth’s Industrial Future

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

I am quite sure the UK Government will furnish you with everything that you wish for, if I can put it glibly.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Grangemouth’s Industrial Future

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

I am slightly struggling with this. To have reliable waste streams, you need consistency, which surely requires standardisation. By “regulatory change”, I do not necessarily mean wholesale change. I mean considering what powers the Scottish Government has under existing legislation to create that standardisation by secondary legislation.

You said that there will be variation. However, it strikes me that, to have reliable feedstocks of the sort that we are talking about, you want to minimise the variation. You want consistency so that you maximise your potential feedstock. Surely that requires updates in regulation through secondary legislation, which will require a bit of thought and planning—or am I missing something?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

Jackie Taylor, I will ask you the same question. What will you be able to do that you cannot currently do, and what will you have to do that you are not already doing?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

Great, thank you.

I return to Jackie Taylor. Councils have to abide by quite a number of different bits of guidance, both statutory and non-statutory. Councils absolutely must follow statutory guidance—that is a matter of law. Updates to guidance could deliver very similar results without necessarily needing this legislation. Indeed, might that provide a more holistic way of looking at community wealth building and ensuring that it is thought about across all policy areas? The Government could set that out when it provides its statutory guidance to local authorities.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

I will leave my questions there. For the avoidance of doubt, I have been playing the role of devil’s advocate this morning. I thank the witnesses for their comments—your responses have been very helpful.