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Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
Oh, no—sorry. Apologies. I am comparing 2023-24 with the budget for 2024-25.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
I would be interested to know whether that budget was spent.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
That might well be the case, but the problem is that, in the current landscape, you need to understand what shape of peg you are and find the right shape of hole. Sometimes, businesses find that they are a square peg but they can find only the triangle, the circle and the star on the pegboard.
I will ask my last question, which is about the longer-term shape and size of the budget. I am about to ask you about budget lines for which you are not necessarily directly responsible. It is one thing to look at the enterprise budget, but we should also look at employability and skills, which are significant levers that we have to impact on economic growth. For 2025-26, the employability line is set at £104 million; in 2022-23, it was £124 million, which was more than £130 million in real terms. You do not even need to get out your calculator to work out that that is a 30 per cent drop over that period. There was also an underspend of £10 million last year.
Likewise, with skills, we see that the proposed budget is £255 million; in 2022-23, it was £287 million, which was £312 million in real terms. That is an 18 per cent fall. I admire your personal commitment to and enthusiasm for the economy, but is that really being translated across the budget and across all of the Scottish Government’s levers to deliver real growth, which, when it comes to the skills budget, is about helping people to get better work and better wages? Do those budget changes really reflect the prioritisation that you have articulated?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
If we can get it in writing—
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
Yes—perhaps that is something for debate this afternoon.
I want to follow on from points that have been raised by Murdo Fraser and Lorna Slater. The most important thing, as you have been seeking to stress, is that it is important to compare apples with apples and to look at things over the longer term. It is interesting that the Scottish Government is presenting the budget in a different way this year, using outturn figures for 2023-24.
The total budget lines under your responsibility show a fall from £1.9 billion to £1.3 billion, but that is largely because of the UK-funded annually managed expenditure of £519 million that occurred in 2023-24. I ask this on the basis of clarification, so that we have this right. AME is not directly at the Scottish Government’s discretion; as I understand it, it is largely spending on behalf of the UK Government. Is there an explanation of what that change was—just so that we are clear about how to compare the figures?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
For the avoidance of doubt, the budget for employability in 2024-25, as passed, was £102.9 million and, according to the budget document that was published, you spent £92.3 million. Is that correct?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 8 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
Perfect.
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
That is a really helpful insight. Just to—
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
I was just going to collapse into the next area about dealing with the specific powers—-
Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee
Meeting date: 7 January 2025
Daniel Johnson
Okay.