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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

That is interesting. Mr Lockley, I am interested in your thoughts.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

Apologies for that interruption from someone’s phone. Clearly, one of my colleagues needed a wake-up call. Sorry, that was very cheeky.

I have a similar question to the one that I asked Zoe Laird. Do you feel that the city region deals play nicely with the rest of your lines of activity or could things be done to improve synergies and maximise the benefit that we get from such funding alongside the current activity that Scottish Enterprise undertakes?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

I am interested in what you said about the focus on regional growth. I very much take the view that growth is built at that level upwards. You have an interesting vantage point, as you are able to compare across the nations and regions where the various deals have been deployed. In England, the deals were constructed very much with an eye to supporting the creation of combined authorities and metro mayors. In Scotland, we have a very different context.

When we look at the data, some interesting points emerge. For example, since 2007, growth in gross domestic product per capita in Scotland has been about half the growth rate in Manchester. In Scotland, GDP per capita has grown by about 0.5 per cent a year, whereas, in Manchester, it has grown by 1.3 per cent. Likewise, if we look at inward investment, we see that in 2022-23, according to the Office for National Statistics, 5,800 jobs were created in Manchester, whereas only 3,400 were created in Scotland.

Do you agree that we are starting to see quite different economic outcomes emerge across the different regions and nations of the UK? What analysis has been done to look at the contribution that the city region deals have made to that situation and at whether the different structures to which those deals apply has played a role in those differences?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

I have a slightly different set of questions for Scottish Enterprise, which I will come to in a moment.

You raise an interesting point there, Zoe. We have regional economic partnerships, the growth deals, the enterprise agencies and local authorities. We probably have other regional structures that are stranded because of previous tiers of government. Is there a sense that we need to look at the opportunities to consolidate some of those structures? Would that be an advantage? South of the border, we have combined authorities. Is there a sense that we could streamline or merge some of the structures that are playing in the same spaces?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

Can you clarify? Are you suggesting that the enterprise agencies could support in that, perhaps by co-ordinating or providing shared services?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

Could you illustrate the point that you just made about areas where Scottish Enterprise has moved away because of the adoption of the mission approach? Could you give some examples of that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

Highlands and Islands Enterprise, including in its previous guise as the Highlands and Islands Development Board, has been in this line of business for a long time. Indeed, you have a legacy of investing in such projects reaching back over 70 years or more. Do you have a corporate view, looking backwards as well as forwards, about the right structure to sit across such funding? Does it play nicely with your other aims and objectives?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

City Region and Regional Growth Deals

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

My principal lines of questioning throughout our inquiry have been around how the city region deals fit within the wider policy and governance structures. When I think about what city regions are designed to do, which is about regional growth and regional economic development, that seems a bit like what South of Scotland Enterprise and Highlands and Islands Enterprise are meant to do. Is there a sense of overlap? Is there a sense that your agencies ought to be much more at the centre of how such deals are designed in the first place to build longer-term continuity in investment and innovation?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

We can probably legislate without using emergency procedures in a three to four-month period. In emergency situations—

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Daniel Johnson

Are you talking about legal restrictions or financial measures?