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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
Good morning, minister. You will be quite familiar with the committee’s inquiry into college regionalisation, in which we called for more flexibility for colleges to manage their finances. You will know that they are restricted in their ability to generate additional income and that they have no ability to borrow or hold reserves, so we need to find a solution to enable them to operate within the current financial envelope in these challenging times.
When the previous minister visited the committee in November 2022, he was pressed on the urgency of those matters and on how quickly things could be dealt with. We now have the SFC’s review on sustainability. Will you talk about that? Also, you said that you met college principals and representatives last week. Did they come with specific ideas for what those flexibilities might look like and how you could assist them?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
I appreciate that, and I appreciate the fact that you are not able to go into detail. What I am looking for is an assurance that we can demonstrate colleges’ value by acting promptly on this and giving them those flexibilities.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
In line with that, the other area that I want to ask about is the value of colleges in the work that they do for people who are furthest away from education. You will recall that we have spoken about that previously. Such work takes a fair bit of investment as regards both staffing and money. I want to highlight that and also seek your agreement on it in principle. Although that work is of great value to our communities and our learners, it is more expensive, so it is the type of area that can often be cut when budgets are tight. That adds urgency to ensuring that we get a bit of flexibility and sustainability for our colleges.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
Are you confident that our colleges will be able to continue delivering high-value but high-investment courses for citizens who need that additional support?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
I do not want to interrupt. I just feel that it is quite an important point. I appreciate that you are newer to the bill.
The evidence that we have heard is that there is concern that it is a move to a subjective test rather than having the objective safeguard of reasonableness in there.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
Good morning, minister. As you say, the bill is about advancing children’s rights, and I would like to cover some areas where concerns have been raised in that regard. On compulsory supervision orders, concerns have been raised with us that the imposition of movement restriction conditions could amount to the deprivation of liberty of a child or young person, without legal safeguards. Have you considered whether more needs to be done with regard to access to legal representation for young people?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
Forgive me, minister, but the change that I am asking about is a move from something that has a—I am losing my words now. Give me a second.
The change to a consideration of psychological harm is a subjective test. There was perhaps some objectivity in relation to “reasonable person”. I might be getting that wrong; if I am, forgive me. That is the specific change that I am looking for your reflections on.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
Okay. Thank you.
The other change relates to criteria and a move to a consideration of what is described as psychological “harm”, which is a pretty subjective test—actually, it is a subjective test, not a “pretty subjective” test.
What consideration has been given to that in relation to children’s rights, and what specific safeguards would you put in place to ensure that MRCs are used only in the appropriate circumstances?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
You rightly highlighted in your statement the intensive support that accompanies MRCs. Can you give assurances that there will be intensive support whenever an MRC is imposed? Can you also talk a little about the additional resources that will be required to do that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Ruth Maguire
For clarity, the specific concern was around an MRC being decoupled from secure care such that the support package would not go with it. Are you being absolutely clear that there will be a package of support for a child who has an MRC?