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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Monica Lennon

That was helpful. We all need to get on the bus a bit more often.

If we put aside the pandemic, which is not easy to do, we can see that there has been a decline in bus passenger numbers. That trend pre-dated Covid, and is despite the fact that the Scottish Government and partners have done a lot of pro-bus investment and made a lot of pro-bus policy. What explains that decline in bus patronage in Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Monica Lennon

The issue has a lot of strands. You have touched on behaviours and attitudes and the importance of affordability and alignment. I want to look at accessibility. Many of us support the expansion of free bus travel to under-22s, but what about communities where the availability of bus services has reduced? You would expect me to mention Hamilton and the X1 service, which I have written to you about recently. What about people over 60 and those who are under 22 who desperately want to get on a bus but for whom the service is no longer there? We have heard, including when you were a member of the committee, about communities feeling that they are now bus deserts, because there simply is not a bus to get on.

You probably have one of the toughest jobs in Government, and we all wish you well, but what is being done to look at the areas where the alignment is really out of kilter? We have free bus travel, but the buses are disappearing. Companies are saying that there are big shortages of drivers. There are big factors, including post-Brexit issues. Are we getting everyone round the table to look at the matter in a joined-up way?

When I speak to people in my local community in Hamilton, they just cannot understand why an express bus service like the X1, which took people from a major town such as Hamilton to Glasgow, no longer exists. That is at a time when people are being asked to leave the car at home, to choose active travel and to think about what they are doing in terms of the climate and nature emergencies, but the infrastructure and services that people need are simply not there.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Monica Lennon

I appreciate the convener giving me quite a lot of time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Monica Lennon

Okay, we will keep an eye on that. I want to ask about antisocial behaviour. I was looking back at the Official Report of one of your last meetings as my buddy on this committee, when you were deputy convener. Antisocial behaviour is a real issue. I know from some of the questions that you asked our rail union colleagues that you totally understand that. There have been some really serious issues with antisocial behaviour and violence affecting both the public and the workforce, as you mentioned in your earlier remarks to Mark Ruskell. Can you say a bit more about the action that the Government and Transport Scotland have been taking to tackle antisocial behaviour and criminality and to understand their root causes?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Monica Lennon

That is very helpful. Just to get into a bit more detail about what the Government can do and about your clear leadership role, is there room for improvement in the Government’s communication strategy and detailed plans around it? Are there any public information campaigns coming out? Is there anything else that you can point to as an example? We all accept that there is a need for cross-party working and for always being responsible, but what communication tools is the Government using?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Monica Lennon

I think that you are still on the fence, but I will hand back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you, convener—I was dropping hints earlier. Cabinet secretary, I am keen to explore your understanding of the public mood around a lot of this. What assessment has been made of how ready the general public are for all the changes that are needed to decarbonise the economy, including around renewable energy, heat and transport?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Monica Lennon

No pressure, then. Good morning to you, cabinet secretary, and to your officials. I have a brief set of questions for now; I will ask more later on.

I want to pick up on new oil and gas projects. It is fair to say that the Scottish and UK Governments hold different positions on continued exploration in the North Sea, certainly in the medium term. How can the two Governments ensure that, while holding those policy differences, they can work effectively to give maximum certainty to businesses and communities during what is quite an uncertain transition period?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Monica Lennon

How do you think we can best achieve the public buy-in and support that we need?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Monica Lennon

To explore that a bit further, we are talking about behaviour change for individuals and organisations, but, ultimately, we need a big radical system change for that to have any meaningful impact. You mentioned a few times today your engagement with business and industry. What more should and could private companies do to communicate their plans for infrastructure investment?