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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

MV Glen Sannox (Hull 801) and MV Glen Rosa (Hull 802)

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Indeed, and you have a plan in place for that. Looking at your most recent written update, I see that it mentions that designers were

“set an impossible timeline and deliverables.”

Who set the timeline, why was it impossible and what effect does it have on costs and delivery?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Good morning to the minister and her officials. Thank you, minister, for clarifying the minor and technical nature of the regulations. When did the errors first come to the Government’s attention, and could their nature—you talked about incorrect numbering and erroneous cross-referencing—have led to anyone inadvertently not complying with the law?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I have no further questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Good morning. My questions are all for David Harley of SEPA. First, I will pick up on enforcement. Recently, criticism by some environmental groups and communities has played out in the media, that there has been a trend of decreasing enforcement action. Will you respond to those concerns and say whether you believe that there is the right balance within SEPA between supporting business and communities, and enforcing compliance with environmental regulations?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

On the original question about striking the right balance between supporting and enforcing compliance by businesses, are you saying that, right now, you think that the balance is good?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

For my final question, I will pivot back slightly to funding and resource. There has been some pretty harsh criticism; I am sure that you will have read it, just as we have. Kim Pratt of Friends of the Earth Scotland said—this was in The Ferret, which did a big investigation—that,

“Three years on, the excuse that Sepa is still recovering from a cyber attack is wearing thin”.

That might be quite hard to hear. I go back to the comments from SEPA’s two former CEOs, who are very concerned about your funding situation. The question has been asked: is SEPA a priority for the Scottish Government? Perhaps I can put that question to you, Mr Harley. Do you feel that SEPA is enough of a priority for the Scottish Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you, Mr Harley. I wish you and your colleagues well.

I will hand back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I think that many people would agree that prevention of non-compliance is the really crucial work.

The people who have been quite vocal are, I would say, friends of SEPA, including two former chief executives, who have expressed sympathy. They have made comments, including about SEPA being starved of funding. We have heard that your funding has been slashed by more than a quarter in real terms since 2010. One talked about a

“starving of funds”

and another said that people are

“distracted to cost-saving exercises”

that take officers away from front-line environmental regulation. It sounds like those people are critical friends. Are they saying the kind of things out loud that people in SEPA today would perhaps like to say to committees such as ours?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I will move away from enforcement to ask about information that is available in the public domain. That was touched on by the convener, when he asked about your recovery from the cyberattack. I think that you said that not all of your systems are back up and running, and that not all of your data is available. That has caused a lot of concern. I think that the Environmental Rights Centre for Scotland has made an official complaint to Environmental Standards Scotland about SEPA. I am not sure of the status of that complaint; my comment is based on media reports from a couple of weeks ago. There is a great concern that SEPA is failing to maintain the public register, which means that pollution permits for about 175,000 sites are not available, and that information is not in the public domain. What is going on there?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I appreciate that the situation must be difficult for staff, who are working hard to get everything back up and running.

What does the situation that you are outlining look like in practice? If I, as a Central Scotland MSP, want to get information about a site in Lanarkshire, I cannot get that information from the public register online, so how do I go about getting it? Is it available? Do I have to physically go to an office?