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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Natural Capital Finance

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Monica Lennon

Is there time? I had put my notes aside, as I thought we were running out of time.

I did have a couple of final questions, if there is time. One is on the Scottish Government’s wish for growth in peatland and woodland carbon markets. We know that NatureScot is piloting approaches with the private sector, and we have heard about the Scottish National Investment Bank investing in commercial forestry, seeking to generate carbon credits. What are your views on the role of the public sector in supporting the growth of natural capital finance? You have given us a flavour of that already. Is it too early to say whether the public are getting value for money? We have heard some concerns about the approach taken with ScotWind. Some people feel that Scotland’s sea bed was sold off too cheaply—that view is out there. Should people be nervous about what is happening with land and about the current approaches?

I see Josh Doble nodding, so I will go to him first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Natural Capital Finance

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Monica Lennon

I was going to ask about the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Natural Capital Finance

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Monica Lennon

I was surprised that I was allowed to ask any questions, given the time. I will move on to my question.

The Land Reform (Scotland) Bill has been introduced only recently. Do you have any initial views or thoughts on the relevance of the bill to our discussion? Will any of the proposals in the bill tackle the issues that have been raised, such as land markets, transparency, community engagement or land use changes? Just say a couple of words, if you could.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Automated Vehicles Bill

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you, Mr Wilson. That was helpful. I am encouraged to hear that there has been perhaps not formal consultation but wide engagement. You also mentioned a number of key stakeholders including unions, whose involvement is important.

Given what you have said, I have a wider question. Obviously, there are the provisions in this bill—which is not a Scottish Government bill—but, more generally, concerns have been raised about the impact of automated vehicles on workers. Jim Wilson gave the good example of self-scanning checkouts in supermarkets. I am sure that we have all had our ups and downs with those.

I believe that, in Scotland, there was a trial involving self-driving buses in 2023, and concerns were raised about what such a move might mean for workers not just from a safety perspective but for future workforce planning. Cabinet secretary, could you speak to the issue of workforce planning? We know that there is a shortage of bus drivers, but have you picked up on any other particular issues? On Mr Wilson’s point about the importance of collaboration and discussion with the Department for Transport, are you satisfied that there is good dialogue with the UK Government on these matters?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Monica Lennon

Good morning to our panel. On the back of Mark Ruskell’s question, I was reading a media comment by Mike Robinson, who is the chair of Stop Climate Chaos Scotland, on the issue of value and affordability. On behalf of the coalition, he said:

“Reverting to expensive tickets would be a hugely retrograde decision and would be bad news for workers, passengers and the climate.”

When you are taking the temperature of the travelling public, are you picking up on that desire to do the right thing by the climate and the environment in addition to having more affordable train travel?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Monica Lennon

I want to pick up on the issue of accessibility before I move on to a question about the safety of women and girls, in particular. Bob Doris asked about accessibility, and Robert Samson talked about rolling stock procurement and future opportunities. I remind the committee that I am a patron of Disability Equality Scotland.

Even at this quite early stage, is there positive engagement with disability organisations and disabled people about their experiences? You have talked not just about reliability but about perceptions about reliability. Obviously, the point about passenger assistance is key. I would like a brief answer to that question before I move on to other matters.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Monica Lennon

Good morning to the panel. First, congratulations to Alex Hynes on his new appointment as director general of rail services at the Department for Transport, moving from Scotland’s Railway to Britain’s railways, in four weeks’ time. Can you advise the committee who will take over from you on 15 April?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Monica Lennon

Your role is MD of both Network Rail Scotland and ScotRail. Will that arrangement continue?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Monica Lennon

I think that it is just for two years, so you might be back in front of us.

I want to speak about the impact of weather events. You mentioned earlier that, even during the pilot scheme for the abolition of peak fares, there have been 10 named storms. I will not ask you to name them all, but extreme weather events are having an increasing impact on Scottish rail services. How is that issue being addressed in the short term and how will it be addressed in the coming years? Maybe Liam Sumpter could add to the answer. What impact might the challenges around control period 7 cuts to investment have on any of the actions that we are about to hear about from Alex Hynes?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you. Yes, I am keen to hear from Liam Sumpter. Alex Hynes mentioned resilience. Some routes will be more challenging than others because of drainage issues and other factors. Liam, could you expand on that briefly?