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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

I want to briefly touch on the proposed human rights bill, because there are obviously high expectations around the right to a healthy environment. I was not able to be here in January for the session on environmental governance, but I looked at the Official Report and noted that Lloyd Austin, on behalf of Scottish Environment LINK, said that

“there is a risk that we will have a human right to a healthy environment that is a human right on paper and is not an effective and enforceable one.”

He went on to talk about the link between the governance debate and the human rights bill and said that

“in order to make the human rights bill effective, the governance questions need to be answered.”—[Official Report, Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee, 16 January 2024; c 42.]

It is quite frustrating that what we have heard today and from others is that the Scottish Government is perhaps not being serious enough about the issue.

We will leave the Wikipedia issue for others to investigate. I know that my Wikipedia page is not accurate—I do not know how it can be fixed—because I am a planner, not a surveyor. That has been in there for a couple of years, and I cannot seem to get it sorted out.

How can the Government demonstrate that it is serious about the issue? What is the timeline for getting this right? The human rights bill is coming to the Parliament and, with regard to the compliance committee, there is a deadline of later this year to demonstrate what the Government is going to do. Is this time critical?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

What happens in the scenario where the cap is reached? What would be the impact on bus operators and users? You have talked about the modelling of this. What are the risk factors? How likely is the scenario that the cap could be reached within the financial year?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

I am a little concerned. We discussed earlier how we want to get more people on to buses and sustainable transport. We want to ensure that that is sustainable. We could reach the cap if we continue to be successful in getting people on to buses, and we are asking operators to provide concessionary travel at a much reduced rate to them. They could come back and tell the minister or Transport Scotland that they can no longer run a service because it is not commercially viable. Is that part of your modelling? Do you have any reassuring answers, not only for people in my area of Central Scotland, but for all of us?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

That is wonderful. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

That is a perfect segue, as I was wanting to ask for an update on the fair fares review. Minister, you said that we would have another discussion “when it reports”. Can you give an indication as to when that will be? How might the review impact on concessionary fares in the future?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

In the next couple of weeks?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

Oh—in the coming weeks.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

Okay. You can tell that we are very excited.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

I have a brief supplementary on the point about judicial review. We heard today about the prohibitive cost of judicial review to not just communities but organisations. To follow up on what Mark Roberts said to Bob Doris, how much budget is set aside for judicial review and other legal costs? Is there a cap on that? You talked about your strategic plan, but it would be helpful to give some indication of how much is set aside for those purposes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Monica Lennon

The topic has been mentioned a few times in the session today; it is very much on the radar of ESS and the Scottish Government.

I am looking for an update on what ESS has been doing to assess whether, and to what extent, Scotland is keeping pace with EU environmental standards. Dr Dixon, you helpfully mentioned the example of ecocide law. Even in the past week, there have been big developments in that regard. A European Parliament press release from six days ago stated that

“Environmental crime is the fourth largest criminal activity worldwide”,

so it is no surprise that the EU has taken action to approve

“new rules on environmental crimes and related sanctions”

and crimes that are

“comparable to ecocide”.

The Scottish Government is aware of that and has told me that it is continuing to monitor the situation. Nonetheless, the EU legislation is now coming into force. Is that an example of where there is live discussion between ESS and the Scottish Government?

In addition, the Ecocide Bill, which is a private member’s bill, has been introduced in the House of Lords. Are we seeing a bit more activity in that area?