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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Good morning to the cabinet secretaries and to all others on the panel. Thank you for your opening statements. You have set out the challenges and pressures, both in a global context and on more domestic issues. Deputy First Minister, how confident and certain are you that the spending decisions in the 2024-25 budget set a course for meeting the interim 2030 emissions reduction targets for Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I am really enjoying this meeting. It is nice to be back in the Parliament. If I reflect on the early questions about engagement, I think that you have all demonstrated why we need early engagement and genuine and meaningful co-production.

My question is about objective 5, which is to “Invest in nature”. The biodiversity investment plan was mentioned earlier and the draft plan commits to developing a biodiversity investment plan that will, or should, set out strategic priorities for public investment. I am keen to understand what has been learned to date about the effective public funding of nature restoration. Where does investment need to be prioritised? Perhaps you could also say a word or two about whether current funding commitments reflect the urgency of the nature crisis that has been articulated today.

My question is for Bruce Wilson first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I am keen to bring in others, but I want to build on that by touching on the role of private investment. Bruce Wilson is right to say that that is the reality, but stakeholders have raised concerns about an apparent reliance in the draft plan on private investment approaches. Paul Walton’s points about regulation and the need for integrity are obviously key in that respect. Do you agree with the Government’s strategy of promoting responsible investment in natural capital, and what would that look like?

Moreover, the Government is, as you know, looking to expand the use of woodland and peatland codes and exploring biodiversity credits. We have also heard about some fears with regard to potential greenwashing, particularly with some of the big polluters. I know that Sarah Cowie wants to come in, but I also want to come back to Bruce Wilson on that question and, indeed, am keen to hear a range of views, if there are any.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I will bring in Ailsa Raeburn, but I want to stick with Sarah Cowie for a moment. You have made it clear that there are many unknowns, but from a farming and crofting perspective, what would you say are the main risks and opportunities of pursuing private investment in Scotland’s natural capital?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I love the anecdote about chatting to the taxi driver about SUDS. That is the kind of thing that I would do, as a planner at heart.

“The People’s Plan for Nature” calls for more locally managed green spaces, which might fit with the point that you made about what happens after sites are built out and occupied. The community stewardship role is really important.

Ailsa Raeburn might want to come back in, but does anyone else want to say anything briefly on this theme before I hand back to the convener?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

If there is time, I will take Ailsa and then Paul.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I agree. Back to you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you, Ailsa. You packed a lot in there, and I am grateful that you have put that on the record.

I will squeeze in a final question, if that is okay with the convener, because I want to cover objective 6, which is to

“Take action on the indirect drivers of biodiversity loss”.

The draft plan states that action will be taken to

“strengthen the connection between people and nature”

through

“Nature positive developments and stewardship of public, community and private land”.

I am keen to hear what nature-positive development looks like in practice, and whether we have a blueprint for that in Scotland. I see that Caroline Brown wants to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

We are getting the message that mapping is very important.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Other witnesses should indicate if they wish to come in. Paul, do you want to say something?