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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Convener, I will hand back to you, but it is worth noting that sympathy will not get us to net zero.

Earlier, I asked about confidence levels in meeting the interim targets and the 2045 targets. I will read out just one sentence from Valerie Davidson, the chief executive of SPT, who said:

“Cuts to this funding will have a hugely negative impact on our efforts to ensure transport in our area is greener, more connected, more reliable, and more accessible”.

That does not give me confidence, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

There have been concerns about a lack of enforcement action, which might relate to resources and capacity. Do you recognise that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Okay. Thank you, Ms Gougeon.

I turn to Ms McAllan. The committee is keen to understand better how cabinet secretaries are working together to ensure that biodiversity and climate goals in the transport, net zero and just transition portfolio are supported by funded actions in the rural affairs, land reform and islands portfolio, and generally across the Government, so that there is proper alignment.

I want to focus on the example of the 41 per cent reduction in woodland grant scheme funding. It is clear that Ms Gougeon is not happy with that situation, and you cannot be feeling great about it either, Ms McAllan. How are you ensuring that you are working together and fighting your corner in the Cabinet? It is clear that the budget will make it harder for you to deliver the targets and policies that are in front of you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

We have to move on to other members’ questions. I will come back later with more of mine.

On the point about private finance, I think that everyone recognises that public finance alone will not get us to net zero. However, are you concerned about some of the reports that we have seen, even in recent days, about some of the investment decisions that the Scottish National Investment Bank has taken, particularly on the Gresham House fund and forestry? That might undermine our objectives in land reform, community wealth building and the just transition, because some of those investments might be more beneficial to funds that are sitting in New York than they are to communities here in Scotland. Is that something that you are actively looking at?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

I think that it was Douglas Lumsden who raised the concern last week that the advisory board that should be in place, under the legislation, is not yet in place.

In the past couple of days, The Ferret had a big report on the Gresham House fund and the Scottish National Investment Bank. Are you concerned by what you have heard?

I am not sure whether Ms Gougeon can hear me.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Has any modelling been done to identify how much money could be raised by the examples that you have given?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Indeed.

I spoke earlier about confidence levels. How confident are you that the spending decisions taken in the 2024-25 budget set a course to meet Scotland’s interim 2030 and final 2045 emissions reduction targets?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

What conditions would have to be in place in order for a sovereign fund, as you have described it, to be agreed to and operationalised by the Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

It was a last-minute decision.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 30 January 2024

Monica Lennon

Can you explain the rationale or methodology that brought the number down to zero?