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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

You are comfortable that it would be the traffic commissioner regardless of—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

Realistically, if the consultation gets under way in the spring of next year, when is the earliest that the strategy could reach the approval stage?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

I am grateful—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

You have said that the decision on what will happen next is ultimately for the Cabinet Secretary for Transport. Ahead of today’s meeting, have you discussed the matter with the transport secretary, or do you know her view on it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

If we agree to the motion to annul the instrument today, in addition to coming back to the committee, would you also endeavour to make a statement to the Parliament so that we can consider the Government’s position on the next steps? We are getting into the realms of amending the primary legislation, and the Government will have options.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

Thank you. Everyone has been very nice on the committee today.

I accept that you have said that there will be a panel, but I want to go back a bit. You said that if the motion to annul was agreed to, you would be clearing your diary and you and your officials would spend the rest of the day considering what happens next. If we end up with an annulment, could you make a commitment that you would endeavour not just to liaise with the committee but to make a statement to Parliament?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

Patrick Harvie sets out the reasonable position that we want to ensure that adequate funding is available for the measures that will make the difference, but does he recognise that not all the financial resources will flow from Government and that we will need investment from the private sector, for example? Will he say something about that? I have a concern that amendment 27 does not fully reflect the reality that not all the finance is Government finance. How does his amendment sit with that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

I have just a question, which you have started to answer already. I am sympathetic to what Maurice Golden is trying to achieve, but I am trying to understand the practical difficulties of having the targets that amendments 15 and 16 would bring in alongside having a carbon budget. It feels as if we are going in different directions here. What would the practical difficulties be?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

I have a question on amendment 62, which is in Mark Ruskell’s name. It was helpful that you set out your position, cabinet secretary, but I am sympathetic to his points about ensuring that the UKCCC is adequately resourced and has the correct capacity. I also recognise the need for a four-nations approach.

I do not think that it is Mark Ruskell’s intention that the Scottish Government would do all the heavy lifting in funding terms, but has the Scottish Government had recent discussions with the UK Government and others about resources and capacity? Will you reassure the committee that that will be looked at on an on-going basis, to ensure that there are sufficient resources for the busy work programme?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Monica Lennon

I will move amendment 58. Sarah Boyack may have misspoken—she said that she would support my amendment 55. I am checking that I have the numbers correct. Sarah’s amendment is 55 and mine is 58. We have that in the Official Report now. It has been a long morning. I agree with my colleague Sarah Boyack’s comments, and I will not bother to repeat those points.

I am pleased to say that I have worked closely with the Scottish Government on amendment 58. It would require that ministers respond to parliamentary scrutiny on the draft climate change plan within three months of any committee report or parliamentary resolution related to the draft plan. I apologise for having the sniffles.

Colleagues will know that section 35A of the 2009 act makes provisions for parliamentary scrutiny of the draft climate change plan, and ministers respond to that scrutiny. However, there is currently no specific timeframe in the 2009 act within which ministers must respond to that parliamentary scrutiny, other than the deadline by which the climate change plan must be finalised. Ministers’ response to parliamentary scrutiny could be included in the statement that accompanies the finalised climate change plan when it is laid in Parliament, or earlier if ministers are taking longer than three months to finalise the plan. Again, I am pleased to have worked with the Government on amendment 58, and I hope that colleagues support it.

I have made it clear that I support amendment 55 in Sarah Boyack’s name. Having listened to Mark Ruskell on his amendment 25, it strikes me that amendment 55 is a better option, as it will give the Scottish Government or the Scottish ministers a bit more space and headroom to produce the climate change plan.