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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

That is debatable. [Laughter.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

That is an important suggestion. Is it your assessment that more work needs to be done to make sure that the information is more accessible and understandable to the public? Do you think that the public dashboard that you talk about should have not only a national focus but local and regional data, so that, wherever people are in the country, they get a sense of how things are going in their own community?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

We are getting down to basics here, but that is a helpful answer. I think that everyone agrees that we need clarity and policy certainty.

I will try to be brief with my next question. There has been a delay in emissions reporting, and we have moved to five-year carbon budgets as opposed to annual targets. Will the witnesses say a few words about the importance of early warning indicators, which have been mentioned a few times, and the kind of data that we should capture for the benefit of not just the Scottish Government but other stakeholders that are part of this journey? How do we get more immediate feedback on progress and risks?

Professor Roy, you have talked about some of the risks to fiscal sustainability, so, I will come to you initially.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

I would like to explore that issue more before I bring in Clare Wharmby. I assume that the pace of the transition is important, particularly given that there is a declining basin. The number of jobs in the north-east of Scotland has dropped off, what happened in Grangemouth has been well documented, and we now have a live situation in Mossmorran. There is a feeling across Scotland, particularly in those key communities, that there is not really any evidence of a just transition. It might be that, in terms of the connection with place, things will look quite different in the future. However, from a Government perspective, how important is it that there is an acceleration of pace with regard to the fiscal element of the transition?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

Clare Wharmby, to add to the original question, does the national approach that is set out in the plan align with local data sources and local approaches?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

Now that there has been a fuller discussion, convener, I note that you have indicated that this will probably result in a vote, because there is division on this. I welcome the advice and background papers that have been provided to the committee, and what really stands out for me is that the notification outlines the reasons for lead ammunition being restricted and the fact that it impacts not only on wildlife, but on human health, too. Our papers advise that

“ingesting lead from ammunition is known to cause excess deaths in wildfowl and poison predatory species that eat contaminated prey or carcasses. It also highlights that humans can be exposed through consuming game meat that has been shot with lead ammunition.”

Those seem like quite serious matters that we should take into consideration. I have not heard anything that would persuade me not to support the proposal today, but I thought it important to put that on the record.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

I am lost for words now, convener.

This has been very interesting; it is always good to have you here, Dr Dixon. I will come to you first, because I want to turn to the importance of monitoring and evaluating the climate change plan, but I also want to pick up the thread about just transition. What you have been saying to the committee is really important, and I hope that both the UK and Scottish Governments are listening.

This is a very obvious question. How important is monitoring the progress of the climate change plan, and what are your perspectives on the two-track approach to monitoring that is set out in the plan at the moment and the inclusion of just transition indicators for the first time? Obviously, I want to hear from the rest of the witnesses, but I will come first to Dr Dixon. If Neil Langhorn wants to add to that, that would be great.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

Thank you. Neil, do you want to add to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Monica Lennon

When you say that some policies are not really policies, do you have any in mind?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Adapting to the Impacts of Climate Change

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Monica Lennon

I suppose that funding is key. I will hand back to the convener.