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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Monica Lennon

I remind the committee of my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am a member of the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers parliamentary group and of Unite the union, which might have some relevance to my questions.

I want to start with questions that are mostly for CalMac. Robbie Drummond, do you have any views on the possible unbundling of the Clyde and Hebrides ferry services? Is there any other way in which local communities and authorities could be more involved in the management of the Clyde and Hebrides ferry service in the future?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Monica Lennon

I will come back to community involvement and representation but, on unbundling, we have heard views that it would be a negative development for the working conditions of CalMac staff. Are you able to respond to that view and those concerns?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Monica Lennon

Is there a NorthLink view on the unbundling debate?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Monica Lennon

I go back to the issue of community involvement. Robbie Drummond, we have heard calls for direct community representation on the CalMac Ferries board. Do you support that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you; that is helpful. You will be aware that Scottish Rail Holdings now has the general secretary of the Scottish Trades Union Congress on the board as a non-executive director. What is your view on relevant trade unions having similar representation on CalMac’s board?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Monica Lennon

Okay. I have a final question. I want to get this on the record. I think that I heard Charles Holmes say that the fines are £300, £600 and £1,000. Is that correct? Can you give an example of the types of non-compliance that would result in fines of those amounts?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Monica Lennon

I appreciate that, today, we are looking at the order but, as MSPs, we are all getting emails and inquiries from businesses and producers that still feel a bit uncertain about some parts of the wider legislation. They are not entirely sure of what they need to do to fully comply, but here we are today talking about potential fines. What would you say to reassure businesses that they will have clarity, guidance and support so that we are not just talking about punishment? There is a place for enforcement, but how will we make sure that people have the knowledge and the tools to fully comply?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Monica Lennon

I do not have much to add. We are all aware that we are having this discussion when we know that public perception and confidence are really important. We heard some robust questions and answers there, and that is important, but, as Fiona Hyslop touched on, it is, at the end of the day, quite a technical order. It might seem counterintuitive to be talking about sanctions when we do not have all the later details, but we know that we need to have not only robust enforcement and deterrents but also opportunities for when stakeholders need guidance. The key things are flexibility and proportionality, and we have had some reassurance on those today. The committee will continue to keep a watchful eye on things.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Monica Lennon

It was helpful that you gave a figure. You said £400 million.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Monica Lennon

You have a list of what you need, and that has been costed, but you do not have certainty over funding.