The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you. On that last point, it would be useful to have sight of the actions that you have undertaken and understand the progress that you have made on those. It would be helpful for the committee to see that.
I hear what has been said about the role of WICS and what it has done to bring in extra revenue, but the focus of the section 22 report is on conduct, behaviour, appropriate action and so on. I think that reference was made to the governance framework, which, as I understand it, was last reviewed in April 2022. Kind of ironically, that is the start of the period that is under scrutiny by Audit Scotland, which has turned up some quite concerning findings.
The Auditor General description to us of WICS’ arrangements was of
“significant weaknesses in financial management and governance”.—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 8 February 2024; c 2.]
He believed that those fell “far short” of what was expected. He identified issues that really stood out for him because he had never or rarely seen the like before in a public body. We will get into some of that this morning.
However, if
“Governance is the over-arching structure and strategy that provides accountability and direction, and influences the behaviours and culture within WICS”,
which is the very first sentence of WICS’ governance framework, how have we got to the situation that is reported in this section 22 report?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Mr Rathjen, there is doubt precisely about whether it was in force. I do not think that there is any doubt that it was on the website. I do not think that there is any doubt that a written document exists. However, there is a huge question mark over whether the standards of governance, the standards of behaviour and the systems that were in place match up to the intention that is set out in the governance document.
I will bring in other members of the committee but, before I do, I want to check something off with you. The introduction to the governance framework, which was reviewed in April 2022, says that the power of the Scottish ministers to direct the Water Industry Commission for Scotland
“is confined to matters relating to the WICS’ financial management and administration.”
Has a minister been involved in what has happened here?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
But she was not involved, for example, in signing off the authorisation that Mr Rathjen gave to the £77,000 Harvard Business School course.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay. I invite Colin Beattie to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Maybe the director general could answer that.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
I presume that those programmes do not cost £77,000.
The final question that I have before I invite Willie Coffey to put some questions to you is about the chief operating officer. She benefited from £77,000 of public expenditure to attend the Harvard business school. I do not know how long the course lasted, but is there any condition on that expenditure that means that the chief operating officer will stay with the organisation for a certain period of time, or could she leave tomorrow?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Do you mean six months’ pay?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Richard Leonard
Wow.