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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

Thank you. We are coming towards the end of our session, but we want to ask a few questions about estate management and where we are on capital expenditure.

There is a pause on capital investment, is there not? Will you describe what that means for the overall state of the NHS estate? Secondly, will you answer with particular reference to where we are with the national treatment centres, which were proffered as part of the solution to some of the things that we have spoken about this morning?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

There is a considerable backlog of maintenance, as highlighted in the Audit Scotland report. What are the Scottish Government’s plans to address that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

Does that include consideration of RAAC, or reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete?

Public Audit Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much, Fulton MacGregor.

I take this opportunity to put on record my thanks to Willie Coffey, who has made an outstanding contribution to the committee not only in this session of Parliament, but in previous sessions. He will be greatly missed. Thank you, Willie, for the work that you have done with the committee.

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

The second item is for members to decide whether to take agenda items 4, 5 and 6 in private. Are we content to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

I will ask you at the outset whether you accept the recommendations that are made in the Audit Scotland report.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. I will look at the recommendations that were made in the report from last year, which are covered in appendix 3 of the report from this year. It is a summation of progress that has been made against the recommendations from the 2022 report, which are grouped into nine broad areas. The Auditor General’s assessment describes that some progress against the recommendations has been made in some areas, but that there has been only limited progress in others and some where no progress was made. How do you respond to that summation in appendix 3 of this year’s report?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

Thanks for that. We would be interested in being sent the link, so that we can look at that work.

One other thing of interest is the asset management and capital investment strategy, which I think is due for publication. Has it been published? Is there a date for its publication?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

But is your cost estimate likely to break the £1 billion barrier?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Richard Leonard

On that note, I will draw this morning’s session to a close. Caroline Lamb, I thank you for answering the questions that we have put to you. John Burns and Richard McCallum, I thank you, too, for your input.

There were a couple of areas that we did not quite get to, so we might write to you with some follow-up questions. You have also committed to giving us some information that you were not able to provide in oral evidence this morning.

I thank you very much indeed, and I draw the public part of this morning’s committee session to a close.

10:48 Meeting continued in private until 11:25.