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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

The Grant Thornton report refers to flights to Rwanda—so there are still flights to Rwanda going on—and a flight to Brasília, which were paid for outwith the orthodox means of booking travel. Can you explain that a bit more?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

You are a small organisation. Previously, we were told that there were 24 employees—perhaps that is the full establishment. Of those 24 employees, how many of them had corporate credit cards?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. That is not an entirely satisfactory ending, but I thank you all for taking part in this morning’s evidence session. I appreciate that it has been long and, at times, quite testing, so thank you for your co-operation. There are a number of areas that the committee will want to follow up, and I think that we have agreed that you will get some more information to us to help us understand both what has gone on and what is happening.

Again, I thank Catherine Williams, Kersti Berge, Michelle Quinn, David Satti, Donald MacRae and Robin McGill for their time—it is much appreciated. We will consider our next steps as a committee. I now close the public part of this morning’s meeting.

11:18 Meeting continued in private until 11:31.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

Very briefly.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

In the interests of time, we will move straight to Graham Simpson, who will ask the final round of questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

So it is a no-alcohol policy now.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay. I will turn to Michelle Quinn. One of the other things that have come out of the evidence that we have seen so far is that the former deputy director was also present at some of the meals that involved purchasing alcohol with the credit card. What is the position of the DG net zero on that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

Rather than participating in something like that, do you not think that it would have been his role to challenge that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

Mr MacRae, were you surprised by that, too?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Richard Leonard

As we are at the start of this morning’s session, can you remind us how many employees WICS has?