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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Of course.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Please go ahead.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Richard Leonard

I have a couple of questions on a similar area to those that were raised by the deputy convener. One is about Mr Sutherland’s written submission, in which he goes further than what has been said so far. He says that he suggested that he should retire in October 2024, but that it was suggested to him by the Scottish Government deputy director that he might want to leave before then, so that he did not have to appear in front of the Public Audit Committee.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Richard Leonard

We may return to explore that a little bit further. Another thing—I have raised this before, so you might be prepared for it—is that it strikes me as quite odd that Mr Sutherland’s contract provided for him to receive 12 months’ notice on dismissal and only 6 months’ notice on resignation. Is that normal in the Scottish public sector, in your experience?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Richard Leonard

He did not sign the 2007 one, though, did he?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Good morning. You have mentioned powers a couple of times already. You have spoken about the possible benefit of having more information-sharing powers and you have alluded to own-initiative powers. You notably told the Finance and Public Administration Committee last year:

“We are not doing the job that we think we should be doing because we do not have the right legislative remit.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 30 April 2024; c 37.]

Can you elaborate on what you meant by that? Is it about those own-initiative powers or about information-sharing powers or about more than that?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

That is interesting because one of the questions that we are asking people when they appear before us is to what extent they are reactive and to what extent they are proactive.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. I was going to ask about the extent to which you see yourself as being a regulatory or advocacy agent.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

I think that I am asking more about the operational aspect than the statutory aspect.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 6 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Do you mean the fees that are charged?