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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Richard Leonard
I now bring in Joe FitzPatrick.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Richard Leonard
Does the Scottish Funding Council need more powers and greater sanctions to stop colleges getting themselves into financial difficulties? Would that work?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Richard Leonard
The job evaluation of non-teaching staff came up earlier, as it has come up almost every year when we have had similar evidence sessions or looked at particular colleges, because it is a long-standing and outstanding piece of unfinished business. You mentioned money transferring to colleges and then transferring back to the Scottish Government. My understanding is that the Scottish Government has underwritten the outcomes of the job evaluation. Is that your understanding, too?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Richard Leonard
Before I put my questions, I refer members to my voluntary register of trade union interests.
The accounts of the City of Glasgow College, which has cropped up a couple of times, show that it is carrying cash reserves of £12.3 million, which is up from £10.5 million in the previous financial year. Why is there such a high proportion of cash reserves held by a college in the midst of this financial crisis?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Richard Leonard
If you could have a look and get back to us in writing, that would be helpful.
I have one final question, which picks up on the theme of 15, as it is about paragraph 15 in your report, which made for interesting reading. You describe how, in 2020, an independent strategic adviser was appointed, presumably by the Scottish Government. In the following year, 2021, an oversight board was established and the independent strategic adviser was made the chair of that board. In 2022, the adviser was asked to step down as the chair, but it took over a year for that process to be completed. The adviser did not fully step down but became a co-chair, along with somebody else who was appointed as a co-chair.
You describe that in very diplomatic terms, but it looks like a very messy situation. It also conjures up questions about the point about clarity of roles and responsibilities. Is the independent strategic adviser an adviser to the Government, the oversight board or The Promise Scotland? Why was the decision taken that it was not appropriate for the person that held that role to continue as the chair of the oversight board? Why was there clearly some resistance to that from some quarters?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed for that opening statement.
When we took evidence from the Auditor General and his team on 1 October, he said some interesting things about where things were and what the Government’s response was to your review and your recommendations. We will get into questions about that, as well as costings, because, even though we are the Public Audit Committee, we think—as you do—that we are not concerned simply with the financial cost implications of the system; we want to look at how it is being run and whether it is producing the intended outcomes.
I invite Joe FitzPatrick to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 29th meeting in 2025 of the Public Audit Committee.
Agenda item 1 is a decision for members of the committee on whether to take agenda items 4, 5, 6 and 7 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Richard Leonard
Our second agenda item is consideration of the Audit Scotland report “Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”. I am very pleased to welcome to the committee Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General. He is joined by Mark MacPherson, who is an audit director, and Claire Tennyson, who is an audit manager, both at Audit Scotland. We are also joined by Andrew Burns, who is the deputy chair of the Accounts Commission, because the report that we are considering has been produced jointly by Audit Scotland and the Accounts Commission. Andrew Burns, you are very welcome.
I will start the proceedings by inviting the Auditor General to make a short opening statement, and then we will get to our questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Richard Leonard
Okay. Thank you. I now invite Graham Simpson to put some questions to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Richard Leonard
That is great, Joe—thank you very much. Yes, I invite the deputy convener, Jamie Greene, to put some questions to you on this and some other areas.