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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Members of the committee will pick that up. However, obviously, you are not a stakeholder but the accountable officer for the Scottish Government.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

For example.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Before I invite other members of the committee to come in, I will ask about drug poisoning, which you mentioned and which is the index that allows you to compare across the UK. However, that tells us that the incidence of deaths is twice as high in Scotland as it is in other parts of the UK. You say that it is complicated, but surely it is your job to understand what the factors are and why Scotland is such an outlier. As we said in the evidence session with the Auditor General, there is huge multiple deprivation in parts of the north of England and south Wales, and in Northern Ireland, yet the figures in Scotland are so shocking.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

One of the things that is mentioned in the report—Caroline Lamb mentioned it in her opening statement—is the increased incidence of drug harms related to cocaine, rising from 6 to 41 per cent. That is documented in the report. Do we know whether that is a Scottish phenomenon, or is it happening across the UK and Europe?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. James Dornan is joining us via videolink, and I invite him to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

I might be talking about a slightly longer time horizon. The matter has been raised with me in discussions that I have had over the past few years.

We need to move on, so I am very happy to invite Graham Simpson to put some questions to you.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

One other very brief question.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Okay, thank you. We will have more questions around issues to do with the focus on alcohol-related harms and so on, but first I will turn to the opening sections of the report that we have before us this morning, which, once again, puts some focus on Scotland’s performance when it comes to drug deaths. In paragraph 2 of the report, it is cited that

“Scotland had a drug-induced death rate of 27.7 per 100,000 population”.

The next highest in Europe is 9.7 per 100,000, so that is almost three times the rate of drug deaths. What work is the Government doing to understand why there is such a public health crisis with drug deaths in Scotland?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

Maggie Page, do you want to comment on that?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Richard Leonard

So, I am really asking you whether you accept a recommendation that points to the lack of focus on and funding for tackling alcohol-related harm. Do you accept that?