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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Of course it is. I ask Ryan Smart to start.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

There is a broader discussion there about the extent to which we have any participatory democracy beyond participatory budgets in local authorities. What is the engagement on that broader spectrum? As Anna Fowlie has said, it is not just about local government. What is the rest of the public sector doing about community empowerment? Those are strong themes that have come out of the session so far.

We are now into the final part of the session. I invite Craig Hoy to ask a few questions and steer us through the final section.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Ryan, you are here not least because the Collydean community centre was one of the featured case studies in the briefing paper that was produced. We thought it would be good to have somebody with that on-the-ground experience joining us.

The themes that we want to cover this morning are largely grouped into three areas. First, we want to examine key factors that lie behind what has worked well during the pandemic. Secondly, we want to get your views and reflections on what you perceive as the risks, how we might go back to the old ways and what we need to do to embed some of the good practices that have been adopted over the past 18 months to two years. In the third section, we want to concentrate on what can be done to strengthen community empowerment and participation across the public sector, building on any lessons that you have learned over this past period of time.

I want to begin by hearing what your experience has been and what your reflections are. It seems to me that, because of the urgency of the situation that some of our communities face, there has been a degree of agility and flexibility, and the public sector has supported community bodies and placed trust in them to deliver services and support to communities in a way that has perhaps not been seen previously. It has been put to me that some of the old red tape and bureaucracy has been set aside in order to ensure that things are delivered with speed.

Is that a fair summary of the picture? Has that been the case everywhere, or has the approach been uneven? How have things differed over the past 18 months or so from how they were before the pandemic?

I ask David Allan to kick off on that. Others can indicate if they want to comment, and we will take you one by one.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

That is helpful. I will go to Pippa Coutts before I ask Ryan Smart to give his thoughts. Euan Leitch wants to come in as well.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Euan, I ask you to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about your organisation.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Ryan, do you want to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about the organisation that you are involved with?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Pippa, I invite you to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about the organisation that you work for.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I welcome everyone to the ninth meeting of the Public Audit Committee in the sixth session of the Parliament. Before we begin, I remind members, witnesses and members of staff that the Parliament’s social distancing rules are in force. If you are moving around, leaving or entering the room, please wear a face covering.

Our first item of business is to agree to take items 3 and 4 in private. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Community empowerment: Covid-19 update”

Meeting date: 25 November 2021

Richard Leonard

David, do you want to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about the organisation that you represent?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Richard Leonard

The principal business of the first of our two evidence sessions this morning is consideration of a section 22 report that was published on 13 October. I am delighted to welcome our witnesses: Stephen Boyle is the Auditor General for Scotland, and joining us remotely are Graeme Greenhill, senior manager for performance audit and best value at Audit Scotland, and Pat Kenny from Deloitte LLP, who worked on the audit and assurance in reference to this audit of the Crofting Commission. I invite the Auditor General to make an opening statement before we proceed to our questions.