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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Where is your evidence for that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
However, from the perspective of the negotiating position, the First Minister—the head of the Government and the leader of the Scottish National Party—comes along and announces Ferguson Marine as the preferred bidder. She would have been made to look pretty foolish, would she not, if five-and-a-half weeks later it was decided to put the contract back out to tender? That must have strengthened any negotiations that you were having with CMAL about the builders refund guarantee.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
—on 5 June 2018 or that it was a three-year-old legal letter?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed, Mr McColl. Thank you for giving up so much of your time this morning and furnishing us with some detailed and wide-ranging answers to our questions.
If, on reflection, you have any other material that you think would be useful to the inquiry that we are running and would help to inform it, we would be very happy to receive it.
Thank you once again for your time this morning. It has been much appreciated.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
For those who are interested in the landscape of the yard and how it works, I point people to the evidence that Alex Logan, the GMB convener at the yard, gave on 22 January 2020 to the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee.
Sharon Dowey has some questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
MSP, I think.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
We work on the basis that people before us are telling the truth.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Do you think that you had preferential access to ministers?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everyone to the 18th meeting of the Public Audit Committee in 2022. Under item 1, does the committee agree to take agenda items 3 and 4 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Richard Leonard
Our principal agenda item this morning is continued consideration of the Auditor General for Scotland’s report, “New Vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”.
Our witness this morning is Jim McColl, the former director of Ferguson Marine Engineering Ltd. You are welcome, Mr McColl. We had also hoped to take evidence from the former chief executive officer of FMEL, Gerry Marshall. Unfortunately, he is not now available but, as always, the option remains open to the committee to consider whether we wish to seek further evidence at a future date.
Mr McColl, we have a written submission from you, so thank you for that. I invite you to make a short opening statement of about two minutes before we get into questions.