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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

Again, I think that we will come back to that issue.

You said earlier that one of the central recommendations of your report relates to the very unequal impact that Covid-19 has had. At paragraph 58, you reflect on your “NHS in Scotland 2020” report from last year. You note that you relied on data that was provided by National Records of Scotland and the Scottish Learning Disabilities Observatory, and you conclude—fairly starkly, I thought—that

“Those from the most deprived”

backgrounds

“and from some ethnic minority backgrounds were more likely to die from Covid-19.”

You go on to state that

“Further data has shown that disabled people were more likely to have died from Covid-19”,

and that

“Adults with learning disabilities were also at a greater risk of being hospitalised or dying from Covid-19.”

That is quite harrowing, is it not? To be frank, it is something of an indictment of our society that that is a feature of the pandemic.

You go on to say, a couple of paragraphs later, that you reviewed the situation again this year and found that there was a

“disproportionate impact of Covid-19 on certain groups”.

You say that that has led the Scottish Government to address that situation in some measure by focusing on tackling health inequalities. However, you go on to state:

“but there is no overarching strategy.”

Do you want to say a bit more about that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

I will move on now, as we want to ask questions about the “NHS Recovery Plan 2021-2026”. I ask Willie Coffey to come in.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

On that note, I draw the evidence session to a close. Thanks very much, Auditor General, for the evidence that you have led, and thanks to Leigh Johnston and Derek Hoy, who have also contributed this morning. It is greatly appreciated.

I close the public part of the meeting.

11:06 Meeting continued in private until 11:38.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

The report draws to our attention the additional funding that has been provided for the express purpose of attending to staff wellbeing. I think that the figures are £8 million and £4 million, which does not sound like an awful lot of money compared with the overall NHS budget. Are those amounts addressing the scale of the challenge?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

I am sure that this committee and other committees in the Parliament might well return to that point in the future.

I will move on to another area of interest in the report: long Covid rehabilitation. The report says that

“The Scottish Government has funded nine studies to develop the clinical knowledge base”

for understanding long Covid. Could you give us a bit more information about those studies, including on timescales and how the results will be reported to the Scottish Government to inform its future decision making in the area?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

The final series of questions is on NHS finances. I was struck by paragraph 115 in the report, where you use the well-chosen words that we are used to seeing from you, Auditor General, when you say:

“The Scottish Government is providing additional support to six NHS boards facing a particularly challenging financial position.”

You go on to say that those boards have to submit monthly plans. I presume that, every month, they have to submit plans that outline the savings that they are making. That is during a period when we are, in effect, still in an emergency. One of the six boards affected is NHS Highland, which was the subject of a section 22 report that we considered earlier this year.

Will you reflect on that position? Is it your understanding that the financial positions of those six boards will be improved by the 2022-23 financial year?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

He is back.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

We will press on with a couple of questions from Sharon Dowey, who joins us remotely.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

Of course.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2021”

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Richard Leonard

We will keep an eye on future trade union and Royal College of Nursing surveys to see whether there is any movement backwards or forwards.

Craig Hoy has a series of questions on the diagnosis and treatment backlog element of the report.