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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
On that note, First Minister, I thank you for your time this morning, and for the interaction that you have had with the committee; it is greatly appreciated. We have identified a number of areas where it would be useful to follow up to try to seek further particulars, and I am sure that the clerks and your office will be able to co-ordinate that. We hope that that will then add to the scrutiny record that the committee has and inform any report that we produce.
Thank you, once again, First Minister. I now draw the public part of this morning’s meeting to a close.
11:59 Meeting continued in private until 12:27.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Which ones did go to Cabinet?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Yes.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Is that a yes?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Yes—it is at annex D.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
I am sorry, but we are up against the clock a little bit.
To reflect on those exchanges, First Minister, are you prepared to put on record the communications briefing that you received regarding the 31 August announcement and any related emails or correspondence?
10:45Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
It might have been an inadvertent formatting error, but it excluded the two most significant paragraphs in that letter.
Let me turn to another point—
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
But we asked Transport Scotland to disclose that letter—that correspondence—and it gave us a version that was not even redacted, but severely edited.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
What is the point of the Cabinet if it does not take decisions of that kind?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Richard Leonard
Well, the view of Audit Scotland is that there is “insufficient documentary evidence”, and paragraph 5.1.9 of the Scottish public finance manual spells out the kind of recording of those decisions that there needs to be.
I have a final question for you, before I hand over to the deputy convener. You mentioned that you had no involvement in the decisions around 8 and 9 October 2015, but your senior special adviser, Alexander Anderson, was copied into all of those emails.