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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

I said at the start of the session that witnesses can ask each other questions; it is not just a matter of fielding questions from members of the Scottish Parliament.

Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

We are going to look in a bit more detail at the Grampian experience.

I turn back to Sharon Dowey, who I think has a question on referrals.

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

Good morning. I welcome everybody to this, the sixth meeting of the Public Audit Committee in this session of Parliament. Before we start our business today, I remind everybody in the committee room that social distancing measures are still in place. If you are moving around, entering or exiting the room, please wear a face covering.

Our first item of business is to agree to take agenda item 3 in private. Is that agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much indeed, Alex. I will turn to Donna Bell. Forgive me, I gave Hannah Axon the elevated title of co-chair of the delivery board, which you are not. You are here representing the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and the voice of local government on the delivery board. I ask Donna Bell to give us her observations.

Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

Did you refer to a particular local authority that is using cinema?

Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you.

I want to move on to another area. We have not so far heard from Caroline Amos on this. She chairs the mental health in schools working group that was set up by the Scottish Government. We understand that the group recently produced an online training resource. To what extent has that resource been taken up and how much engagement has there been with it? Welcome, Caroline.

Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

Is the resource aimed at all school staff or just teaching staff?

Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

Thank you. I know Alex Cumming from SAMH wants to come in on this point.

Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

I do not think that Alex Pirrie from NHS Grampian has been put on the spot by Donna Bell. I think that she has indicated in the chat box that she wants to come back in. I ask Alex Pirrie to respond to Willie Coffey’s questions from her perspective.

Public Audit Committee

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services

Meeting date: 7 October 2021

Richard Leonard

You will be delighted to hear that I have a couple of participants who want to give a brief response to the questions that you are asking. I know that Alex Pirrie wants to come back in again, I think for the third time in this little session. I want to invite Martin McKay to come in, because we have spoken quite a bit about the NHS Grampian experience, on how the service is delivered on the ground and how it is navigated. I will invite Martin to reflect on that, and then I will bring in Alex Pirrie, and I think that Donna Bell wants to come back in briefly as well.