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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2023
Richard Leonard
Willie Coffey has some questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2023
Richard Leonard
Good morning, and welcome to the Public Audit Committee’s fourth meeting in 2023.
The first item is consideration of whether to take agenda item 3 in private. Do members agree to take item 3 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 2 February 2023
Richard Leonard
I hear that but, just from my simple perspective, are you saying that there has been a reduction in the size of the senior management team but that it is costing more money?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you for your co-operation. We are against the clock. There are some areas that we will follow up on in writing for completeness, but we have questions on a couple of final areas that it would be useful to put to you this morning, so that that is on the record. Willie Coffey has questions about reporting on performance.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much for your evidence. It has been a really useful session for us. I appreciate the input from each of you. We will want to follow up on things that came out of the questioning and some things that we did not get to in the time allocated this morning.
10:27 Meeting continued in private until 11:37.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2023
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everybody to the second meeting in 2023 of the Public Audit Committee. The first item on our agenda is consideration of taking agenda items 3 and 4 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2023
Richard Leonard
Colin Beattie has some questions, but I know that he has to give a presentation to another committee. Do you want to ask your questions now, or do you want to leave it?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2023
Richard Leonard
That is absolutely fine.
Auditor General, I turn to what seems to be a recurring section of these reports, which is the financial position of the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service. People will, no doubt, be aware of outstanding cases against the Lord Advocate in connection with the acquisition of Rangers Football Club. The report states that the cases that have been resolved total £35.5 million in costs up to March 2022,
“with a further £24.5 million provided in respect of cases still to be finalised.”
First, what does that mean for the overall financial position of the office? Secondly, can you update us on where those outstanding cases are? Are there further cases yet to be settled?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2023
Richard Leonard
Okay. Finally, I just want to touch on the situation with GFG Alliance. I welcome your commitment this morning, Auditor General, that this is an area of continuing interest to you. In the financial year covered by this report, the supply chain banker to GFG Alliance, Greensill Capital, has gone into administration. As Michael Oliphant mentioned, the Serious Fraud Office is looking at GFG Alliance around concerns over fraud and money laundering. Quite unusually, GFG Alliance’s own auditors resigned. I think that its finance director left. Its corporate structure has been described by another parliamentary committee as “opaque”. I understand that the most recent accounts for the Lochaber smelter are not going to be audited. Do you have a view about the overall risk that we now seem to be facing here?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2023
Richard Leonard
Thanks very much, Willie. We will turn to you again, because you have questions about the replacement for the European Union structural funds and how that will be audited and overseen.