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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 29 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you. We have run out of time, so I will draw this part of this morning’s session to a close.
I thank the Auditor General for his evidence this morning, as well as Mark Taylor and Joanne Brown, who has been moved on, which is a routine thing—it is not because you have done anything wrong, Joanne, is it?
I thank you all for your evidence, which has been very illuminating. We will need to consider our next steps as a committee in response to the evidence that we have heard this morning. I now propose to suspend the session in order to allow for a changeover of witnesses.
09:59 Meeting suspended.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 29 June 2023
Richard Leonard
I welcome everyone back to this morning’s meeting of the Public Audit Committee. The second principal item on our agenda is consideration of major capital projects. I am delighted that we have four witnesses from the Scottish Government to help us with our inquiries on major capital projects: Alison Cumming is the director of budget and public spending; Alison Irvine is the chief executive officer of Transport Scotland; David Signorini is the director of environment and forestry; and Kersti Berge is from the directorate for energy and climate change. You are all very welcome.
We are particularly interested in focusing on the Government’s approach to net zero and the whole agenda around climate change targets. We are a little pressed for time, so there will be no opening statement—we will go straight to questions. Bill Kidd will ask the first couple of questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 29 June 2023
Richard Leonard
We are a bit pushed for time, so we cannot go into too much detail about particular projects. We have questions about specific projects, so we will come back to those in the course of the discussion over the next three quarters of an hour.
Willie Coffey has some questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 29 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you. That was very clear and we appreciate that. Craig Hoy has some questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 29 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much for setting the scene with that opening statement, which had a great deal of similarity with the evidence that we took around this time last year.
We will go straight to questions. I invite deputy convener Sharon Dowey to begin.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 29 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Bill Kidd has some questions.
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Good morning. Key message number 1 in the report says:
“We are making progress in returning the timeliness of our financial audit to pre-pandemic timescales but have more work to do.”
As I read them, the figures in the report are that, two years ago, 82 per cent of audits were delivered to schedule. A year ago, it was 75 per cent, and in this report, it is 51 per cent. That does not sound to me like progress, but perhaps you could explain those figures.
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Okay. Thanks. In his opening remarks, Professor Alexander talked about the organisation considering “our purpose”. I think that most of us would consider the primary purpose to be to carry out audits of public bodies. From those figures, it appears that you are not making the progress that we would want to see. I would like to understand from you the extent to which that is to do with timeliness issues among the bodies that you are auditing versus timeliness issues in your own organisation.
Meeting of the Commission
Meeting date: 28 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Do you know when you will get back to pre-pandemic levels of completion?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Richard Leonard
Agenda item 2 is consideration of evidence on the written authority that the Cabinet Secretary for Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy issued in recent weeks. I am delighted to welcome our witnesses this morning. The cabinet secretary, Neil Gray, is joined by Kate Hall, who is the deputy director of strategic and industrial assets, and Colin Cook, who is the director of economic development, in the Scottish Government.
We have a number of questions to put to you, cabinet secretary, but, first, I invite you to make a short opening statement.