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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

Thanks very much. As none of the committee members has any more questions, I am going to draw this meeting to a close. I thank Pat Kenny, Stephen Boyle and Kirsty Ridd. We appreciate your input this morning. There are some things that we might want to follow up with you and the Crofting Commission.

I now close the public part of this morning’s meeting.

09:44 Meeting continued in private until 10:58.  

Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

Good morning, and welcome to the Public Audit Committee’s fourth meeting in 2023.

The first item is consideration of whether to take agenda item 3 in private. Do members agree to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

I hear that but, just from my simple perspective, are you saying that there has been a reduction in the size of the senior management team but that it is costing more money?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

Willie Coffey has some questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you. We may well have the permanent secretary before us in the coming weeks to give evidence, so we might raise that with him.

Happily, Colin Beattie has rejoined us. Colin, you had questions on social security, which is another important part of the report. I invite you to put those questions to the Auditor General.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Richard Leonard

You refer in the report to the £60 million additional payout from the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service as “unplanned costs”. Can you give us an idea of how £60 million compares with the annual budget of that public service?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much indeed. I turn straight away to Craig Hoy, who has questions on financial management.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Richard Leonard

Do you, as Auditor General, have a view about reports that the most recent accounts of the Lochaber smelter will not be audited?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Richard Leonard

Before I bring in Willie Coffey, can I go back to what you said about the business investment framework? I think that you said that it was almost there. However, the summary of the document says:

“This guidance is not exhaustive because each investment decision is different and will have its own unique characteristics.”

That sounds like a continuation of the approach that has been followed hitherto, which is that it is all case by case. Does it sound different to you?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Richard Leonard

I turn to another area of committee interest that is highlighted in the report: the use of reserves. You make a point in the report about transparency. You say that

“There is a need for greater transparency over the Scottish Government’s policy and approach to using reserves to manage existing cost pressures, particularly where there are funding implications for the wider public sector.”

Please elaborate a little bit on that and tell us what your concerns are.